Please.  I am refraining from responding to many posts containing
mis-information or fabrication myself.

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Jonathan Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stu,
>
> Can we setup a sunbelt-politics list to move this discussion there?
> (that's a hint to call this thread quits)  I have my opinions, I share them
> when appropriate, this is not an appropraite forum.
>
> As to the original topic, we're an accounting firm, and we're planning on
> increased spending.  Since I haven't finalized my budget yet, I can't say by
> how much, but probably about 15%.
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Chinnery, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like fun (over-seas assignment, that is). Although I assume your
>> cost of living is higher than if in the US.?
>>
>>
>> Paul Chinnery
>> Network Administrator
>> Memorial Medical Center
>> 231-845-2319
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kelsay, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 12:25 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying
>> decisions?
>>
>> TV's are not taxed.  You pay a TV license each year that funds the BBC.
>>
>> By the way I am an American who lives and works here.  I last lived
>> outside of Boston.
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 31 October 2008 16:03
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying
>> decisions?
>>
>> But that's your government adding taxes...BTW, you guys still get taxed
>> on tv's?
>>
>>
>> Paul Chinnery
>> Network Administrator
>> Memorial Medical Center
>> 231-845-2319
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kelsay, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 4:54 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying
>> decisions?
>>
>> I am paying about $8 a gallon here in the UK.  No sympathy.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 30 October 2008 21:47
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying
>> decisions?
>>
>> Paid, 2.02 this morning (San Antonio Texas)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:42 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying
>> decisions?
>>
>> Lol, I paid $2.59 yesterday, and was thankful (California)
>>
>> Joe Heaton
>> Employment Training Panel
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:42 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying
>> decisions?
>>
>> On the positive side -- I found gas at $1.89/gallon today.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Don Guyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:39 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying
>> decisions?
>>
>> Well........the economy pretty much sucks here in PA too, BUT the
>> Phillies just won the World Series, so the pain is numbed for a few
>> days, at least.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Don Guyer
>> Systems Engineer
>> Information Services Department
>> Prudential Fox Roach/ Trident
>> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
>> Devon, PA 19333
>> Ph: (610) 993-3299
>> Fax: (610) 650-5306
>> www.prufoxroach.com
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:17 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying
>> decisions?
>>
>> It aint no bed of roses up here in RI... I wish I was down in PA...
>>
>> Z
>>
>> Edward E. Ziots
>> Network Engineer
>> Lifespan Organization
>> MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
>> Phone: 401-639-3505
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:13 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying
>> decisions?
>>
>> For some of us, the irony is on the fact that those who live in the most
>> socialist parts of our country never seem to be able to figure out why
>> the economy is so much worse in their area in comparison to other parts
>> of the US. (i.e. - MI, MA, RI) TVK
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:21 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: OT: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying
>> decisions?
>>
>> roflwaffes.
>>
>> Our economy is already well socialized at the state and federal levels.
>> Edging it to be more (hopefully only for a short term) or less for the
>> welfare of a very hurting country is not necessarily a bad thing - for
>> the good of the country.  Not that you are, but to brand him a
>> socialist, or any ideas he is pushing as "socialism", is silly IMO.  Our
>> economy is a blend of capitalist and socialist ideals.
>>
>> --
>> ME2
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:32 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Probably not a great day to retort on this, but you will either agree
>> or
>> > hunt me down..
>> >
>> > 2009 is going to be a bad year in the economy.   You don't bounce back
>> from
>> > a trillion dollar globalwide investment loss, the largest downslide in
>> the
>> > economy in over 70 years and a huge unemployment number..
>> >
>> > I also don't care who is the President, they are not going to fix our
>> > problem.  The president is a part of the checks and balances when it
>> comes
>> > to the bills congress puts through, and yes he has an agenda and will
>> push
>> > it with Congress;  making it harder or easier to pass bills..Good or
>> BAD.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I can also tell you that I will be voting for McCain for  the simple
>> fact
>> > that Obama is moving this country toward a socialized economy no
>> matter how
>> > you dress up the words.  He wants to increase the taxes for me as a
>> business
>> > owner and redistribute it in the form of higher taxes and a bloated
>> > government.  Not to mention his provision for bring in illegals and
>> giving
>> > them a driver license, benefits, social security(Which who will pay
>> for
>> > that? You and I that's who).  The welfare system kicked into high
>> gear.....I
>> > did not work my butt off 60 to 70 hours a week to have someone who
>> wants to
>> > sit on their butt for a year and take 60% welfare checks because
>> McDonalds
>> > doesn't pay as much... among other personal value decisions..
>> >
>> > If you have worked hard and saved you should not be penalized and your
>>
>> > wealth redistributed simply because someone does not have as much.
>> The very
>> > essence of this country was built upon hardwork and ingenuity, those
>> who
>> > don't want to work and work hard are not entitled to the benefits of
>> wealth
>> > from those that do.  Also provide 100% healthcare..A noble goal, but
>> the
>> > reality is that 100% healthcare is universal socialization and
>> everyone
>> > paying a large piece to redistribute to everyone else who doesn't and
>> the
>> > quality of care drops.  Look at France...They pay CSG and
>> CDRS(Healthcare,
>> > Social Security) taxes against their income and then their tax bracket
>> after
>> > those taxes is up to 50%, this can equate to 60%+ of your income to
>> taxes...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Oh and to further my soapbox, One of the largest reasons we are where
>> we are
>> > is a lack of personal responsibility (Mostly Wall Street and the Banks
>> being
>> > greedy and making bad business decisions) and then demanding that our
>> > government pay for the mistakes of business owners, people who buy
>> homes and
>> > cars we had no business buying, and saying, "Save me, I am a stupid
>> person
>> > who takes no responsibility or my actions, but I will vote for whoever
>> is
>> > going to promise me everything."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Remember this.  "A Government large enough to give you everything you
>> want,
>> > is a government large enough to take everything you have." -- Henry
>> Ford
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ok off soapbox, back to regularly scheduled tech support.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:37 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying
>> decisions?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The college educational system which has grown by 440% in costs should
>> be
>> > able to not be cutting budgets. IMO
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I think no matter who the President is everything will be better
>> afterwards,
>> > whether we get the big spender and everyone sells stuff to the govt
>> and we
>> > can cut out healthcare and use the govt's system to save money, or the
>> cost
>> > saver gets in and it goes back to business as usual.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Bush isn't going to do anything between now and then so that's
>> probably why
>> > everything is topsy turvey, home sales went up last month for the
>> first time
>> > so I think the end of the skid is coming to a close. (Thank God)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On this end, I have seen a noticeable drop off in business, as a
>> consultant,
>> > however, nothing worse than usual as the end of year is coming up and
>> all
>> > the holidays, usually November/December are slow and I get a couple of
>> big
>> > projects with the downtime, so we will see if I get those approved.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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