"I do think the advice in their paid stuff is vastly overpriced".
Funny you mention this, I feel the same about college - *depending on what you 
want to achieve*, college is a waste of money.

"You can go to the local public library and check out a few books on personal 
economics for "free", and get the same result".
*A FEW* can yes, but the same could be said about pretty much any topic you 
want to know more about right? Once you reach reading age who needs a teacher 
or college? There's books for that stuff right? Why take classes to pass a 
certification test, there's book you can read that teach you the same thing the 
teacher will.

By that theory Ben once you can read you don't need a teacher - heck why does 
this mailing list exist? There's documentation for probably 95% of every 
problem we've run in to. My wager is that a book is not the be all and end all 
of knowledge :-), it helps to have other folks who have had experience with the 
issue we come up with on different occasions for different reasons, be it money 
(Dave Ramsey will be the first to tell you why he went from millionaire to 
broke before thinking "hey, maybe I've been doing this all wrong?"), or IT 
issues.

I simply need a classroom environment for some things. We spent $99 on a 13 
week Dave Ramsey class, and it paid for itself in just realizing how dumb our 
life insurance setup was (hell we're saving more than that PER MONTH). Like I 
said, my parents didn't teach me some things they should have, and I am the 
type that needs more than a book. I wouldn't try to pass a Microsoft cert test 
by reading books alone, I just don't work that way (or am maybe just too dumb). 
In a similar vein I would hate to try to do my job without the interactive 
nature this list provides - this list far better than just a book or article.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Would this be good for IT, or what? (UNCLASSIFIED)

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Mike Gill <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ramsey is a pretty incredible guy. I've learned so much (and come to grips
> with more) listening to his radio show when I happen catch it. ...

  I won't say that any of these "get out of debt" guys are bogus --
their advice seems sound, from everything I've seen -- but I do think
the advice in their paid stuff is vastly overpriced.  You can go to
the local public library and check out a few books on personal
economics for "free", and get the same result.  I do find it quite
ironic, though.  :)

-- Ben

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