Re: Seagate HDs

[Joe Fox]

I know I mentioned this in an earlier thread today, but I have heard people have had a lot of success with GRC's SpinRite for recovering "bad" hard drives.  Usually it can make the drive usable again, although I would probably replace the drive shortly after SpinRite'ing it. -Joe On 1/15/2009 10:44 AM, Phillip Partipilo wrote: I managed to do the freezer trick with a number of older Fujitsu IDE drives, around 6-8 years ago, they used a bad batch of red phosphorous in their main processing chips on the drives, which had too much thermal expansion/contraction, which led to broken wires within the ICs themselves.  The freezer trick was almost 100% effective with them. What I would do was take a bare shell of a computer, just the cheapest motherboard in the cheapest case you could get (pulled out of the closet and dusted off), take old broken drive and new drive, seal both in a bag with cables coming out of said bag, hook to computer, place ghost disk in floppy, put entire assembly into the office freezer, run cables out of the edge/seal, small monitor and keyboard outside the fridge, and do the ghosting there. Very effective and often practiced thing back in those days. On Jan 15, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Jacob wrote: Well.. not reinstall, but to get data off it.   It is usually an onetime event. After that, the HD is basically toast.   I tried it a couple times just for sh*ts and giggles. Got it to work once, but lasted about 10 minutes.       From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org]  Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 6:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Seagate HDs   Anyone ever hear of putting a failed 2.5in (laptop format) HDD in a freezer? Put it in an antistatic Ziplock bag, put it in the freezer for a couple hours, then reinstall. We have about 50% success rate on that one (cloning the HDD immediately of course) David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER  NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Gene Giannamore [mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com]  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Seagate HDs   Wow, like the time we could not get a 120GB  Samsung (I think Samsung) working, and some other tech took it and slamed it onto a table saying that on some of these HDDs, the park jams the heads, and he just loosed them up. It worked, and he proceeded to clone the hdd to a new one, before he destroyed the old one (awl punch I think). I miss the work, don’t miss the craziness.     Gene Giannamore Abide International Inc. Technical Support 561 1st Street West Sonoma,Ca.95476 (707) 935-1577    Office (707) 935-9387    Fax (707) 766-4185     Cell gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com   From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Seagate HDs   My experience with WD for the last 8 years has been the same. I’m just one man, but I consistently have the most trouble with Maxtor and WD. The oddest trouble is a few years ago I had a couple of 6.4GB WD IDE drives that would only work if there was another device on the ribbon. The drives would not operate alone regardless of jumper config. Last week, a 160GB drive in a computer I was looking at stopped working. I tried it in a USB carriage as well, in which it came up once, then went away in the explorer window before my eyes. Out of curiosity I put it back into the computer case, added a second drive to the IDE cable and boom, works like a champ. Unbelievable.   --  Mike Gill   From: Gene Giannamore [mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com]  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Seagate HDs   While working for a local small computer repair shop, we noticed the highest failure rate from 160GB and 60GB IDE/SATA hard drives (all brands), and more failures from Maxtor and Seagate compared to WD. The brand failure rate was probably due to number of units sold. WD used to have a great RMA process, used to get brand new drives as replacements, now get recertified (useless when drive is DOA). Hopefully the high failures for consumer drives will not spill over to the high end SCSI/SAS/FC drives.                                 If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.OnlyMyEmail.com/ReportSpam  THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE AND ANY ATTACHMENTS ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE SENDER. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED FOR USE BY THE ADDRESSEE ONLY. ANY OTHER INTERCEPTION, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR DISCLOSURE OF THIS MESSAGE IS PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER AND DELETE THIS MAIL AND ALL ATTACHMENTS. DO NOT FORWARD THIS MESSAGE WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE SENDER.