Sounds like a guy who doesn't know what he's doing.

But MCSEs (or CCNAs or CISSPs) aren't tested on whether you can create 
shortcuts on desktops.

Someone who's just read a bunch of books and then gone and passed some exams 
probably isn't going to be able to do a lot in a practical situation. But there 
are plenty of people who have practical experience who don't understand the 
theory behind what they are doing.

Cheers
Ken

From: Jacob [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 9:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

We hired an MCSE who did not know how to create a shortcut on a desktop. Not 
kidding. Really.. not kidding.

He lasted about one week.

From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

For the most part I'm a firm believer that Certs and Test's are no longer what 
they used to be. I've been doing IT for around 15+ years, I had an MCP, never 
bothered to make it into an MCSE. It wasn't worth it to me. I wouldn't have 
learned nothing taking a class that I didn't learn from mentors / peers / my 
own research and reading.   Requiring an MCSE for a position is a joke, would 
you pay the person more? Salaries rarely ever go up it you take Certs.

Let me tell you a quick story about certs I was working for a company once and 
I was the supervisor of a 5 person desktop  IT team. They decided to hire a 
more senior guy once one of my team members left, I wasn't involved in the 
process except for giving my bosses needs /wants for the position. Well they 
hired an MCSE guy that had more certs that I could shake a stick at. Well after 
about two months of working together and him consistently failing to do simple 
things, like If 4 of us could print and he couldn't he would start taking the 
printer network device apart since that had to be the problem.  I sat down and 
drilled him about his skills , prior to his hiring he was a carpenter but 
decided to switch jobs he did a 6 month tech stint a small company as desktop 
support and then took a Boot camp MCSE, which was the major factor in the 
hiring process that my bosses used. He was USELESS!

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Someone who knows what they're doing should be able to demonstrate that they 
can do that without an MCSE. I know a bunch of REALLY good Windows people who 
have no MS certs and never will.

Likewise, someone who knows pretty much nothing but is good at taking tests can 
be an MCSE without much trouble.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[email protected]

c - 312.731.3132





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