I was in a rather large IT division with many different skill sets, all over the country. Most of the guys and gals I worked with gave 100% 8 to 16 hours a day. Everyone wanted to move to the Network Infrastructure team or the Server administration team, some real nuts liked Lotus Notes Admin, these are just examples. The competition was very healthy, professional, and strong. Certs were requirements of the given slot. If you were real good and proved it by your performance you could get a prime slot with the understanding that the certification would follow shortly thereafter. I had to study for a week or two before the test, some of these guys did it over a weekend and that was demoralizing. It was never a good idea to get to your review and not have that portion of your job requirements' lacking. I do remember the one and only time it happened to me and how embarrassed I felt at not having my particular cert and my lead saying to me what can the company do to help me with this problem. That's where you say "I blew it and it will not happen again." There may be 8 to 10 areas covered on the review and your peers are scoring high in all of them so you really do not have a choice. Well you could always quit or asked to go back to TAC.
"From The Sunny Side Of The Street !" Cliff P. From: Andy Shook [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 13:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question But sometimes, those pieces of paper are required for an interview \ consulting engagement \ pre-sales meeting. Necessary evil, in my mind. I hate the rat race but I keep current as it "validates" me\my company to the untrained prospect. --Andy Shook Sr. Sales Engineer Peak 10 8910 Lenox Pointe Drive Charlotte, NC 28273 ph: 704.264.1078 | mobile: 803-517-2168 | fax: 704.264.2010 |[email protected] MANAGED HOSTING | VIRTUALIZED SERVICES | MANAGED DATA CENTER SERVICES | SAS 70 TYPE II CERTIFIED Atlanta | Charlotte | Cincinnati | Jacksonville | Louisville | Nashville| Raleigh | Richmond | Tampa 1-866-732-5836 24x7x365 Solution Support Center This message contains information from Peak 10, Inc. which may be confidential and privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information and note that such actions are prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify [email protected] by e-mail. From: Don Ely [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question Certs are just a piece of paper... On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Dennis Rogov <[email protected]> wrote: i think it really depands on your IT department and the task that you handle. I strongly belive that for someone who has been in IT and works with Windows platform should have an MCSE. When i look to hire engineers to my team for mid and senior admin position i require MCSE. As far as other vendor certs in my eyes VCP and CCA are something that each mid and senior level engineer should posses. But once again it depands on your infastructure as there is no sense to have a CCA if you dont run citrix... As the senior egineer and network manager i am investigating Project manager certification let faceit most task you do in windows is a project and requires involment multiple departments. _____ From: "Ziots, Edward" <[email protected]> To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 3:57:54 PM Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question Point taken, Just too burnt out trying to be everyones "go-to" guy, so might be time for a change. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email: [email protected] Phone: 401-639-3505 MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + _____ From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question For those into security ISC is great. For those of us who are not security folks, it is of little to no value. Some of us like being Sys Admins. J From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question Importance: High People are still running the M$ cert rat race? Rather just do ISC(2) certs and have CPE's than take the exams everything 2-3 years. Honestly, it be really nice to see M$ adopt that mentality, they never will tho. Only Cert in M$ I am looking to do is MCTS/MCTIP in SQL 2005/2008. (SQL 2005 is a lot of fun, once you learn it, and I am stoked about 2k8 enhancements) Other than that its CISSP/SSCP/CEH/CISA/CISM and then out of sys_admin hell for me.. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email: [email protected] Phone: 401-639-3505 MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + _____ From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MCSE question The upgrade exams retired in March of 2008. So what you have to do now is go through the whole thing for 2008. From: Gavin Wilby [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 12:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MCSE question Yes. 2009/2/4 Dennis Rogov <[email protected]> Hi all I have a question about certifications: I am currently certified Windows 2000 MCSE and would like to renew my certs to stay competivite in this market. Can i take the upgrade test to 03 Windows _____ From: John Hornbuckle <[email protected]> To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:50:54 PM Subject: RE: Comcast pays customers to watch porn! They pay people $10 for being exposed to 30 seconds of porn, but won't credit me jack for having an outage that keeps me offline for hours or days? 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