I was in consulting for ~6.5 year, both direct and subcontracting to other consulting firms, and would argue the opposite actually. I've never had any Microsoft certs and don't have a college degree. Out of hundreds of engagements I only once had a customer ask about this. That turned out to be the project from hell as well. :)
Additionally, I do a fair bit of hiring right now and honestly I could care less if someone is certified or has a degree. All I care about is whether or not candidates know what they are doing. Certs have never told me this and I don't really see how they ever could... That being said this is surely an interesting thread so far. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question Bah. You should think of certs and degrees merely as ways to get you entry. I work with lots of banks and educational institutions; and subcontract to other consulting firms. Certs and degrees are the price of entry. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question Best reason I've heard yet for not getting a degree. :-P From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question Hmm in that case degree is just a paper. However without a degree its almost impossible to land a managment position Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ From: "Ziots, Edward" Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:41:52 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question Concurr, Both great points, that is why I said why do people continue to keep doing it. The Cert is just a piece of paper, experience is what I am looking for, no certificate can teach that or even measure it.. Only reason I can see is basically due to Gold/Platinum Partner requirements to have so many certified people on staff to maintain status. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Phone: 401-639-3505 MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + ________________________________ From: Don Ely [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
