Thanks for all the responses and comments.  Essay question paper now written
and will be turned in on Monday when I take the test.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote:

>  I was outsourced. I worked for Textron for about 10 years, then they
> outsourced their support IT staff – server admins, Help Desk, etc  - to CSC
> (www.csc.com). Bryan’s first paragraph described the experience pretty
> well, all the way down to and including “…took 72 hours, prior to the
> outsourcing it would have been resolved in less than a  few hours”.
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> I worked in the same office working with the same people, but the procedure
> change was excruciating. Case in point (I even brought this example up at my
> interview here at NWEA). Textron and CSC negotiated the contract such that
> CSC charged Textron for every port that was turned on on every switch. What
> does this mean? Imagine any time a new employee is hired…”hey we need to
> find what port on some switch to activate”, and when they leave “we need to
> disable that port”. And what if you need an impromptu connection? The guys
> managing the switches weren’t even in the same state!
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> If Textron had a clue, they would at LEAST have said “charge us by MAC
> address and just leave all the ports on” and then CSC could just audit their
> address tables once a month. And don’t think there weren’t  a few Linksys
> grade switches coming off the main switches to ad hoc activate some wall
> port because the SLA to activate a port was 24 hours.
>
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>
> Example 2: Need to reboot a hung server? Cool, but even if the reboot was
> successful and you knew what the root cause was, you needed to attend a 90
> minute change review board meeting – at least until they got to you and no,
> they didn’t start the meetings with the “quckie” stuff either.
>
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> Example 3: End users weren’t happy that no matter how many times they
> called, they have to give the s/n of their computer, their phone number,
> etc. It turned out to be an effective way to cut down on call volume.
>
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> I am convinced Textron did it for two reasons: Many of their competitors
> were doing it, and it looked good to the shareholders. After two years of
> this insanity none of the numbers I saw ever bore out any financial
> advantage, and certainly my end users to a man were far less satisfied with
> their support. IMO it was a slimy way to spread IT support costs throughout
> all Textron’s divisions because the cost was spread, but the mean level of
> support tanked.
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> I left CSC because I couldn’t stand the overhead of doing my work, my work
> life became like NetBEUI…
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
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>
>
>
> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2009 5:58 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Outsourcing Discussion
>
>
>
> Guys and gals,
>
> I've returned to college this fall after about 15 years to finally finish
> up a degree I started on about 25 years ago.  One of my classes this
> semester is Macro Economics.  Last night my professor gave us an essay
> question for a test next Monday that is potentially 50% or more of our test
> grade.  The topic is on outsourcing and I wanted to toss this out for
> discussion, input, personal experiences etc etc.  The questions I have to
> answer are:
>
> What is the economic justification given for outsourcing?
> Where is the outsourcing taking place?  (Obviously, I'm focusing on the IT
> field, specifically technical support)
> What types of jobs are these workers performing?
> What is the benefit to the business?  To foreign workers?
>
> I talked with my professor and told her what approach I wanted to take,
> from the end user perspective, and that I had experienced the tech support
> being outsourced.  She liked that idea a lot.  Obviously, I will be looking
> for other news articles to support my essay.  What I'm looking for is
> thoughts, opinions, personal experiences from an end user perspective, has
> anyone here been outsourced?  What was that like?  I'm just taking an
> informal poll from a group of my peers that I know has had personal
> experience in some way with this subject.
>
> Try to keep it on topic, I did get Stu's OK before sending this, so a big
> Thanks Stu for the use of these lists to help with my exam.
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
> Sent from Haltom City, TX, United States
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-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Newark, TX, United States

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