Not many people have used SNA... we did as part of Back Office to attach to an 
AS/400 and System/36. Oof.

The code name for the Novell gateway product, which was deigned to "prostitute 
NetWare" was "Visine".  

I'll let ya'll figure out why. :)

-sc

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 11:49 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> 
> NetBIOS Extended User Interface, but I don't know/remember the other.
> I used NetBEUI with WfWg 3.0/3.1/3.11 and Netware 3.11, many moons ago.
> I also used the MSFT SNA server.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 19:01, Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > I'll give you a dollar if you can tell me what NetBEUI stands for without
> looking it up.
> >
> > I'll double that if you can tell me the code name for MS's Gateway Services
> for NetWare was while under development.
> >
> > And if you cheat and look em up u r l...@m3.
> >
> > -sc
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:58 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> >
> > Weren't you still on NetBEUI just last week?
> >
> > Heh.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 17:52, Steven M. Caesare
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I’ll probably no longer do so either, but I’ve run Windows without
> >> protocol stacks installed/bound previously, and if there’s a
> >> dependency, I’d like to see it documented.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Otherwise there shouldn’t be a checkbox next to the protocol that
> >> makes it just as easy to disable as File and Print sharing, which you
> >> can disable with relative impunity.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -sc
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Free, Bob [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:41 PM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I think that’s expected as it’s the party line from a Microsoft Techwriter.
> >> I believe it gets the point across. With what I heard from the PFE
> >> that I can’t elaborate on, what Michael alluded and a few other cases
> >> I’ve heard of I’m not going to risk disabling it on my servers. It’s not 
> >> worth
> it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:12 PM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> That’s unfortunately nebulous.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -sc
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Free, Bob [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:24 PM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The Argument against Disabling IPv6
> >>
> >> It is unfortunate that some organizations disable IPv6 on their
> >> computers running Windows Vista or Windows Server 2008, where it is
> >> installed and enabled by default. Many disable IPv6-based on the
> >> assumption that they are not running any applications or services
> >> that use it. Others might disable it because of a misperception that
> >> having both IPv4 and IPv6 enabled effectively doubles their DNS and Web
> traffic. This is not true.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From Microsoft's perspective, IPv6 is a mandatory part of the Windows
> >> operating system and it is enabled and included in standard Windows
> >> service and application testing during the operating system development
> process.
> >> Because Windows was designed specifically with IPv6 present,
> >> Microsoft does not perform any testing to determine the effects of
> >> disabling IPv6. If IPv6 is disabled on Windows Vista, Windows Server
> >> 2008, or later versions, some components will not function. Moreover,
> >> applications that you might not think are using IPv6—such as Remote
> >> Assistance, HomeGroup, DirectAccess, and Windows Mail—could be.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Therefore, Microsoft recommends that you leave IPv6 enabled, even if
> >> you do not have an IPv6-enabled network, either native or tunneled.
> >> By leaving IPv6 enabled, you do not disable IPv6-only applications
> >> and services (for example, HomeGroup in Windows 7 and DirectAccess in
> >> Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 are IPv6-only) and your hosts
> >> can take advantage of IPv6-enhanced connectivity.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://207.46.16.252/en-us/magazine/2009.07.cableguy.aspx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:05 PM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I’ve had IPv6 disabled on several Win2K8 servers as well without
> >> problem as far as I can tell also.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -sc
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:04 PM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I've had IPV6 disabled on Vista since forever and have never had any
> >> issues talking to my WSUS server.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> More than likely "they" had something else going on and accidentally
> >> fixed it at the same time they re-enabled IPV6.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Jon Harris [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:00 PM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: Re: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I would add Vista and 7 as well but I have not done a lot of testing
> >> on that issue.  I know some of the products like WSUS were having an
> >> issue with Vista clients not having IP6 turned on.  I don't remember
> >> what the issue was but they had problems connecting reliably to the
> server.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Free, Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes bad on any 2008 server
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:15 AM
> >>
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Can you answer this:  Is it bad to do it on any 2008 machine, or just
> >> a 2008 machine that will host Exchange?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:22 AM
> >>
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> There are known problems with doing so. And, unfortunately, before
> >> you ask me what they are – I’m not allowed to say.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael B. Smith
> >>
> >> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> >>
> >> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:18 AM
> >>
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ok!  I’ll try to find it again.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Curious though, as to why it’s such a bad idea…
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:15 AM
> >>
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sam –
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> DON’T DO THAT.  Dramatic enough? :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> And like Carl asked, I’m interested to know where you read it. ‘Cuz
> >> I’ll try to get it fixed.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael B. Smith
> >>
> >> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> >>
> >> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:37 PM
> >>
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Where'd you read that?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:33 PM
> >>
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> IP6 is disabled on the NIC(s).   Something I read to do when
> >> introducing
> >> Ex2010 into an IPv4 environment.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Free, Bob [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 4:20 PM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What do you mean by ip4 only?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:45 AM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Having a terrible time getting an RDP session open to my first Srv08
> >> server.  Works 50% of the time.  Have to fire up the VMware Console
> >> to connect.  Once I log in through the console, I can then connect to
> >> the Srv08.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Firewall is disabled.  ip4 only.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ???
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:41 AM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> >>
> >> That’s the same version I have (Win7 ultimate x64).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael B. Smith
> >>
> >> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> >>
> >> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:35 AM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: What is the latest version of RDP client for Win7?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have 6.1.7600; thought 7.x was out...
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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