On the pro side, for your organization, will be flexibility, single sign-on,
faster response for your users

The costs and complexity can go up, depending on business factors.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Ralph Smith <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Well you're correct that I'll be looking at upgrading Exchange soon,
> which is one reason I am interested in this discussion. However, even if
> I purchase a new server and all associated licenses, if it lasts another
> 5 or 6 years the gap would only widen.
>
> This is what I was looking for - other costs to consider.
>
> Backups I use built in Windows Server backup on Exchange, and then
> incorporate that backup into our regular backup - not much cost there,
> amount needs to be quantified.
>
> Data center related costs - I have to investigate that, my gut says the
> percentage added for the Exchange server is not very significant, but
> needs to be determined.
>
> Thanks for the input,
>
> Ralph
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:59 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Cloud Computing (Was: DNS Server service shuts down
> shortly
> > after the DC boots)
> >
> > How are your backups handled? There surely are costs associated with
> that
> > that you're not including.
> >
> > Does the one hour per week include patching/updating? What happens
> when
> > you have to move to a new server (and if your current one is six years
> > old, I'm guessing that's going to be happening soon)? What will the
> > hardware, software, and labor costs associated with that be? What are
> the
> > costs for electricity, climate control, and other data center-related
> > expenses?
> >
> > Don't get me wrong--I'm not saying a hosted solution is right for you.
> > It's not right for everyone (including us at this tiem). Just that you
> > need to make sure you're comparing ALL of your costs to the cost of
> > outsourcing. Apples to apples.
> >
> >
> >
> > John Hornbuckle
> > MIS Department
> > Taylor County School District
> > www.taylor.k12.fl.us
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ralph Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:33 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Cloud Computing (Was: DNS Server service shuts down
> shortly
> > after the DC boots)
> >
> >
> > "$50 a year for a mailbox is pretty freaking attractive to a guy that
> > has to watch every penny"
> >
> > This is where I seem to have a conceptual problem - I'm not trying to
> > argue the point, just gain a better understanding.
> >
> > I've been running a single Exchange 2003 STD on the same box for the
> > last 6 years.
> >
> > The cost of the box: $2000
> > The cost of Exchange for me (non-profit): $250
> > CALS @ $3.00 each: $600
> >
> > Total cost for me over 6 years having an in house server: < $3,000.
> >
> >
> > 6 years of $50 * 200 users: $60,000.
> >
> >
> > Labor - I put in maybe an hour a week on the Exchange Server, and I'm
> > guessing some time would be invested dealing with a hosted Exchange
> > solution also.  I don't feel that having the Exchange server in house
> > adds much to my day to day work, and my employer would not be paying
> me
> > any less if email were outsourced.
> >
> > So how am I saving pennies outsourcing exchange - what makes up the
> > other $57,000?
> >
> > Even substituting Exchange 2010 STD retail pricing of $750, and CALs
> at
> > about $80 the total would be about $20,000, still a long way from
> > $60,000.
> >
> > Again, not trying to argue, I just feel like I must be missing
> something
> > major.
> >
> >
> > Ralph Smith
> >
> >
> >
> >
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