Until the first lawsuit, or major hack. The cloud is *way* overrated - unless it's private.
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 05:09, Martin Blackstone <[email protected]> wrote: > Cloud is such a dirty word isn’t it? But software as a service isn’t. But > it's almost the same thing right? How many companies have been using > Salesforce or something similar? Welcome to the cloud. Welcome to software as > a service. > If you look at something like Gmail, they actually have a government facility > that is much more secured than what we get. For example that’s where the LAPD > lives. The city of LA gave up their entire email infrastructure to Google > last year. > I'm saying get with the cloud before the cloud gets you. Your CFO will come > to you eventually and tell you to get something in there and you better be > ready to deal with it. HOW you deal with it may depend on how you and your > department survives. $50 a year for a mailbox is pretty freaking attractive > to a guy that has to watch every penny and that’s the bottom line when it > comes to the top line. Everyone and I mean everyone says "Our email, our > data, our whatever is too sensitive to put in the cloud", and I would be 95% > of us are wrong, and there are some very secure cloud locations out there. > You just have to find them. > > You guys better be ready to get with the program. Our jobs depend on it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:37 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Cloud Computing (Was: DNS Server service shuts down shortly after > the DC boots) > > For all its flaws, I don't see cloud computing as a passing fad. It's not > likely to go away, so the best we can do is to work to improve it. > > I can tell you that my own organization is a big fan of it. Why? Well, we're > a school district. Our core competency isn't the maintenance of complex IT > system. We don't have the staff with the knowledge to maintain such systems, > and we don't have the money to hire that staff. Our staffing levels have > actually shrunk due to budget cuts, while the number of various systems and > applications we're using is continuing to grow. Every new app means more > storage space, more backup job complexity, more hardware utilization, more > support requirements, more time troubleshooting, more time upgrading--the > list goes on and on. > > So what can we do? Outsource the maintenance of as many systems as possible > to companies who specialize in that type of work (so they can almost always > do it better than us) and who gain economies of scale (so they can almost > always do it cheaper than us). Put the app in the cloud, and let someone else > worry about things like backups, upgrades, and support. And having it > web-based has the added benefit of there being no client-side software for us > to have to worry about. > > Reliability hasn't been a factor for us with our cloud-based apps. Our > Internet connection is pretty reliable. If it goes down, we have alternate > means of connecting to our most critical apps. Security? Well, the best we > can do there is to have a good contract stipulating our requirements and the > consequences of security breaches. I'm the most advanced tech in our > organization, but I'm not a security expert--I'm a technology generalist, not > a specialist. That means these companies can handle security AT LEAST as well > as we can, and often better. > > It's not right for every organization and every application. But for us, > cloud computing offers significant benefits. We're leaning more and more on > it all the time. > > > > John Hornbuckle > MIS Department > Taylor County School District > www.taylor.k12.fl.us > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:36 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: DNS Server service shuts down shortly after the DC boots > > Oh, yeah. > > Somehow, though, it seems to me as if 'the cloud' violates the CIA triangle > of security. > > At the very least, > > a) availability is compromised (if you don't have Internet connectivity, > among other things), > > b) integrity is compromised (new ways of breaking out of VMs to the > underlying host, and you don't know who you're sharing a physical host with, > not to mention issues with network traffic from the various VMs on a physical > host being sniffed.) > > Color me deeply skeptical. > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 17:34, Carl Houseman <[email protected]> wrote: >> Seems the 'cloud' is the new buzzword for how we're going to increase >> profits next quarter. The cloud will save us! The cloud will reduce >> our expensive fixed costs! Has Dilbert done something on the cloud >> yet? If >> >> not, it's just a matter of time. >> >> >> >> From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 5:00 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: DNS Server service shuts down shortly after the DC boots >> >> >> >> True, but I’ll use OpenDNS way before using Google or MS DNS servers… >> >> >> >> The cloud the cloud…everything is cloud around my office with exec’s >> …“SharePoint’s broke and we have no expertise here…move it to the cloud! >> Exchange, Live Communications Server, ship –‘em all out!” >> >> >> >> From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:26 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: DNS Server service shuts down shortly after the DC boots >> >> >> >> Not everyone wants to depend on DNS services 'in the cloud' even if >> they're free... > > > > NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. 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