" If (HP Chief Information Officer Randy) Mott told me, 'Put the general ledger up in cloud,' I'd say go back to work, we're not doing that." "
Maybe if they had done for a couple of companies and federal agencies we would not have the economy we have now with some of those CEO/CFO/Presidents/Analysts looking at serious jail time instead of retirement in far off countries enjoying the money they manged to get their companies to contractually pay them. Jon On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Ben Schorr <[email protected]> wrote: > "I think it's a very attractive model, but there will be challenges," (HP > CEO Mark) Hurd said. "At the end of the day, if you tell a CEO, 'Put our > e-mail in the cloud,' a certain amount of CEOs will tell you not (to). If > (HP Chief Information Officer Randy) Mott told me, 'Put the general ledger > up in cloud,' I'd say go back to work, we're not doing that." > > > Ben M. Schorr > Chief Executive Officer > ______________________________________________ > Roland Schorr & Tower > www.rolandschorr.com > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 03:10 > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Cloud Computing (Was: DNS Server service shuts down shortly > after > > the DC boots) > > > > Cloud is such a dirty word isn’t it? But software as a service isn’t. But > it's almost > > the same thing right? How many companies have been using Salesforce or > > something similar? Welcome to the cloud. Welcome to software as a > service. > > If you look at something like Gmail, they actually have a government > facility that > > is much more secured than what we get. For example that’s where the LAPD > > lives. The city of LA gave up their entire email infrastructure to Google > last year. > > I'm saying get with the cloud before the cloud gets you. Your CFO will > come to > > you eventually and tell you to get something in there and you better be > ready to > > deal with it. HOW you deal with it may depend on how you and your > department > > survives. $50 a year for a mailbox is pretty freaking attractive to a guy > that has to > > watch every penny and that’s the bottom line when it comes to the top > line. > > Everyone and I mean everyone says "Our email, our data, our whatever is > too > > sensitive to put in the cloud", and I would be 95% of us are wrong, and > there are > > some very secure cloud locations out there. You just have to find them. > > > > You guys better be ready to get with the program. Our jobs depend on it. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:37 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Cloud Computing (Was: DNS Server service shuts down shortly > after the > > DC boots) > > > > For all its flaws, I don't see cloud computing as a passing fad. It's > not likely to go > > away, so the best we can do is to work to improve it. > > > > I can tell you that my own organization is a big fan of it. Why? Well, > we're a > > school district. Our core competency isn't the maintenance of complex IT > system. > > We don't have the staff with the knowledge to maintain such systems, and > we > > don't have the money to hire that staff. Our staffing levels have > actually shrunk > > due to budget cuts, while the number of various systems and applications > we're > > using is continuing to grow. Every new app means more storage space, more > > backup job complexity, more hardware utilization, more support > requirements, > > more time troubleshooting, more time upgrading--the list goes on and on. > > > > So what can we do? Outsource the maintenance of as many systems as > possible > > to companies who specialize in that type of work (so they can almost > always do it > > better than us) and who gain economies of scale (so they can almost > always do it > > cheaper than us). Put the app in the cloud, and let someone else worry > about > > things like backups, upgrades, and support. And having it web-based has > the > > added benefit of there being no client-side software for us to have to > worry > > about. > > > > Reliability hasn't been a factor for us with our cloud-based apps. Our > Internet > > connection is pretty reliable. If it goes down, we have alternate means > of > > connecting to our most critical apps. Security? Well, the best we can do > there is > > to have a good contract stipulating our requirements and the consequences > of > > security breaches. I'm the most advanced tech in our organization, but > I'm not a > > security expert--I'm a technology generalist, not a specialist. That > means these > > companies can handle security AT LEAST as well as we can, and often > better. > > > > It's not right for every organization and every application. But for us, > cloud > > computing offers significant benefits. We're leaning more and more on it > all the > > time. > > > > > > > > John Hornbuckle > > MIS Department > > Taylor County School District > > www.taylor.k12.fl.us > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:36 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: DNS Server service shuts down shortly after the DC boots > > > > Oh, yeah. > > > > Somehow, though, it seems to me as if 'the cloud' violates the CIA > triangle of > > security. > > > > At the very least, > > > > a) availability is compromised (if you don't have Internet connectivity, > among > > other things), > > > > b) integrity is compromised (new ways of breaking out of VMs to the > underlying > > host, and you don't know who you're sharing a physical host with, not to > mention > > issues with network traffic from the various VMs on a physical host being > > sniffed.) > > > > Color me deeply skeptical. > > > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 17:34, Carl Houseman <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Seems the 'cloud' is the new buzzword for how we're going to increase > > > profits next quarter. The cloud will save us! The cloud will reduce > > > our expensive fixed costs! Has Dilbert done something on the cloud > > > yet? If > > > > > > not, it's just a matter of time. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 5:00 PM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > Subject: RE: DNS Server service shuts down shortly after the DC boots > > > > > > > > > > > > True, but I’ll use OpenDNS way before using Google or MS DNS servers… > > > > > > > > > > > > The cloud the cloud…everything is cloud around my office with exec’s > > > …“SharePoint’s broke and we have no expertise here…move it to the > cloud! > > > Exchange, Live Communications Server, ship –‘em all out!” > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:26 PM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > Subject: RE: DNS Server service shuts down shortly after the DC boots > > > > > > > > > > > > Not everyone wants to depend on DNS services 'in the cloud' even if > > > they're free... > > > > > > > > NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. 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