The default for new computer objects is the Computer Container. GPOs can't
be applied there, thus the reason you modified AD to redirect new computer
objects to an alternate OU.

- Sean

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Sherry Abercrombie <[email protected]>wrote:

> Changed to go to a different OU than the default.  There was a reason why
> we didn't apply that GPO to the default, but I don't remember what it was
> now.....
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> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:56 AM, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>  Interesting….I think I just found a hole in our deployment process, or
>> more accurately, re-remembered it. Sherry did you change AD to new systems
>> automatically go into a different OU than the default, or do you apply those
>> GPO’s to the default \Computers OU?
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>> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:52 AM
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>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: VMWare View, How are you handling AV? (Viper to be
>> specific)
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>> The OU that Vipre looks at to do the automatic push has a GPO that is
>> totally restricted, can't be logged into from the network etc etc.  Only
>> Vipre and WSUS can do anything to it while in that OU.  Once it's been
>> verified that the workstation has been updated appropriately, the computer
>> will get moved to the actual OU that it belongs in which has the appropriate
>> GPO's.
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>> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Crawford, Scott <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>> So, do you just plan on not getting any viruses before it gets pushed to
>> the client?
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>> *From:* N Parr [mailto:[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:37 AM
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>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: VMWare View, How are you handling AV? (Viper to be
>> specific)
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>> Didn't realize it would do the detect and push, I guess that would solve
>> my problem.  Just have to keep an eye on the server and delete any old
>> clones, but like I mentioned even that should be a problem if the clones get
>> re-created with the same names.
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>> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:34 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: VMWare View, How are you handling AV? (Viper to be
>> specific)
>>
>> Vipre push was part of our standard server build out, we didn't make it
>> part of our base os images for VMWare because of guid issues as mentioned.
>> You can set up Vipre Enterprise to automatically detect new computers based
>> on the OU they are put in and automatically push to it.  We did this for our
>> workstation builds, but not servers.
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>> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:27 AM, N Parr <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Why wouldn't you treat a VM license like any other?  The console would see
>> it as a normal computer and make it count anyway.  Just trying to figure out
>> an easy way to mange it.  Could create an agent install package and push it
>> out to the clone via GPO but when we update the base image for the clone
>> with windows updates, new applications, etc it would get wiped out.  I guess
>> if the linked clones are getting created with the same naming structure you
>> wouldn't have to worry about deleting the clients from Viper Enterprise
>> server when because it just sees the agents by computer name and not SID or
>> anything.  When the new clones came back up they would get the agent
>> installed via GPO again and then start talking to the Enterprise server like
>> normal.  My rambling make sense?
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>> *From:* Jeff Cain [mailto:[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:15 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> *Subject:* RE: VMWare View, How are you handling AV? (Viper to be
>> specific)
>>
>> N Parr,
>>
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>>             I am assuming here that you are using VIPRE Enterprise. I
>> would recommend protecting each clone with VIPRE as the growth from
>> definitions would be minimal, this is the best way to protect your systems
>> and any machines they are connected to. I would also say that you should
>>  reinstall the VIPRE agent after you clone the machine to prevent the
>> Enterprise Console from confusing the machines as they’ll have the same
>> agent GUID in the console. As far as licensing goes, I don’t believe we hold
>> VM installs against you.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff Cain
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>> *From:* N Parr [mailto:[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:06 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* VMWare View, How are you handling AV? (Viper to be specific)
>>
>>
>>
>> So does anyone have any pointers on this?  Are you just not worrying about
>> it since you can wipe the linked clones out at any time if they get
>> infected?  I'm sill worried about handling outbreak protection.  Don't care
>> if the clone gets hosed but I don't want all my clones getting infected with
>> something and trying to spread it around.  If you install AV on the base
>> image and don't use persistent clones then they will have to update
>> signatures every time they boot from the day the base image was created.  If
>> you use persistent clones then their deltas will grow because of signatures
>> being added every day.  And then you've got licensing and agents on linked
>> clones trying to update from the enterprise server with a pc name that is
>> different than the base image they were created from.  I don't think a lot
>> of AV vendors have really thought this type of situation through.
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>> Sherry Abercrombie
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>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
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>> Sherry Abercrombie
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> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
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