A setting in AD:
Redirecting CN=Computers to an administrator-specified organizational unit

 1.  Log on with Domain Administrator credentials in the domain where the 
CN=computers container is being redirected.
 2.  Transition the domain to the Windows Server 2003 domain in the Active 
Directory Users and Computers snap-in (Dsa.msc) or in the Domains and Trusts 
(Domains.msc) snap-in. For more information about increasing the domain 
functional level, click the following article number to view the article in the 
Microsoft Knowledge Base:
322692<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322692/>  
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322692/ ) How to raise domain and forest 
functional levels in Windows Server 2003

 1.  Create the organizational unit container where you want computers that are 
created with earlier-version APIs to be located, if the desired organizational 
unit container does not already exist.
 2.  Run the Redircmp.exe file at a command prompt by using the following 
syntax, where container-dn is the distinguished name of the organizational unit 
that will become the default location for newly created computer objects that 
are created by down-level APIs:
redircmp container-dn container-dn
Redircmp.exe is installed in the %Systemroot%\System32 folder on Windows Server 
2003-based or newer computers. For example, to change the default location for 
a computer that is created with earlier-version APIs such as Net User to the 
OU=mycomputers container in the CONTOSO.COM domain, use the following syntax:
C:\windows\system32>redircmp ou=mycomputers,DC=contoso,dc=com
Note When Redircmp.exe is run to redirect the CN=Computers container to an 
organizational unit that is specified by an administrator, the CN=Computers 
container will no longer be a protected object. This means that the Computers 
container can now be moved, deleted, or renamed. If you use ADSIEDIT to view 
attributes on the CN=Computers container, you will see that the systemflags 
attribute was changed from -1946157056 to 0. This is by design


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324949


From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare View, How are you handling AV? (Viper to be specific)

Nice.

What does the moving?

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare View, How are you handling AV? (Viper to be specific)

The OU that Vipre looks at to do the automatic push has a GPO that is totally 
restricted, can't be logged into from the network etc etc.  Only Vipre and WSUS 
can do anything to it while in that OU.  Once it's been verified that the 
workstation has been updated appropriately, the computer will get moved to the 
actual OU that it belongs in which has the appropriate GPO's.
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Crawford, Scott 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
So, do you just plan on not getting any viruses before it gets pushed to the 
client?

From: N Parr [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:37 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare View, How are you handling AV? (Viper to be specific)

Didn't realize it would do the detect and push, I guess that would solve my 
problem.  Just have to keep an eye on the server and delete any old clones, but 
like I mentioned even that should be a problem if the clones get re-created 
with the same names.

________________________________
From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:34 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare View, How are you handling AV? (Viper to be specific)
Vipre push was part of our standard server build out, we didn't make it part of 
our base os images for VMWare because of guid issues as mentioned.  You can set 
up Vipre Enterprise to automatically detect new computers based on the OU they 
are put in and automatically push to it.  We did this for our workstation 
builds, but not servers.
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:27 AM, N Parr 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Why wouldn't you treat a VM license like any other?  The console would see it 
as a normal computer and make it count anyway.  Just trying to figure out an 
easy way to mange it.  Could create an agent install package and push it out to 
the clone via GPO but when we update the base image for the clone with windows 
updates, new applications, etc it would get wiped out.  I guess if the linked 
clones are getting created with the same naming structure you wouldn't have to 
worry about deleting the clients from Viper Enterprise server when because it 
just sees the agents by computer name and not SID or anything.  When the new 
clones came back up they would get the agent installed via GPO again and then 
start talking to the Enterprise server like normal.  My rambling make sense?

________________________________
From: Jeff Cain 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:15 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare View, How are you handling AV? (Viper to be specific)
N Parr,

            I am assuming here that you are using VIPRE Enterprise. I would 
recommend protecting each clone with VIPRE as the growth from definitions would 
be minimal, this is the best way to protect your systems and any machines they 
are connected to. I would also say that you should  reinstall the VIPRE agent 
after you clone the machine to prevent the Enterprise Console from confusing 
the machines as they'll have the same agent GUID in the console. As far as 
licensing goes, I don't believe we hold VM installs against you.
Thanks,
Jeff Cain
Technical Support Analyst
Sunbelt Software
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From: N Parr [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare View, How are you handling AV? (Viper to be specific)


So does anyone have any pointers on this?  Are you just not worrying about it 
since you can wipe the linked clones out at any time if they get infected?  I'm 
sill worried about handling outbreak protection.  Don't care if the clone gets 
hosed but I don't want all my clones getting infected with something and trying 
to spread it around.  If you install AV on the base image and don't use 
persistent clones then they will have to update signatures every time they boot 
from the day the base image was created.  If you use persistent clones then 
their deltas will grow because of signatures being added every day.  And then 
you've got licensing and agents on linked clones trying to update from the 
enterprise server with a pc name that is different than the base image they 
were created from.  I don't think a lot of AV vendors have really thought this 
type of situation through.




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