Ahhhh, that was it.  Thanks Sean, it's been several years so I didn't
remember that, plus I don't work there anymore......

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Sean Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> The default for new computer objects is the Computer Container. GPOs can't
> be applied there, thus the reason you modified AD to redirect new computer
> objects to an alternate OU.
>
> - Sean
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Sherry Abercrombie <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Changed to go to a different OU than the default.  There was a reason why
>> we didn't apply that GPO to the default, but I don't remember what it was
>> now.....
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:56 AM, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  Interesting….I think I just found a hole in our deployment process, or
>>> more accurately, re-remembered it. Sherry did you change AD to new systems
>>> automatically go into a different OU than the default, or do you apply those
>>> GPO’s to the default \Computers OU?
>>>
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>>> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:52 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* Re: VMWare View, How are you handling AV? (Viper to be
>>> specific)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The OU that Vipre looks at to do the automatic push has a GPO that is
>>> totally restricted, can't be logged into from the network etc etc.  Only
>>> Vipre and WSUS can do anything to it while in that OU.  Once it's been
>>> verified that the workstation has been updated appropriately, the computer
>>> will get moved to the actual OU that it belongs in which has the appropriate
>>> GPO's.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Crawford, Scott <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So, do you just plan on not getting any viruses before it gets pushed to
>>> the client?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* N Parr [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:37 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* RE: VMWare View, How are you handling AV? (Viper to be
>>> specific)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Didn't realize it would do the detect and push, I guess that would solve
>>> my problem.  Just have to keep an eye on the server and delete any old
>>> clones, but like I mentioned even that should be a problem if the clones get
>>> re-created with the same names.
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:34 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: VMWare View, How are you handling AV? (Viper to be
>>> specific)
>>>
>>> Vipre push was part of our standard server build out, we didn't make it
>>> part of our base os images for VMWare because of guid issues as mentioned.
>>> You can set up Vipre Enterprise to automatically detect new computers based
>>> on the OU they are put in and automatically push to it.  We did this for our
>>> workstation builds, but not servers.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:27 AM, N Parr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Why wouldn't you treat a VM license like any other?  The console would
>>> see it as a normal computer and make it count anyway.  Just trying to figure
>>> out an easy way to mange it.  Could create an agent install package and push
>>> it out to the clone via GPO but when we update the base image for the clone
>>> with windows updates, new applications, etc it would get wiped out.  I guess
>>> if the linked clones are getting created with the same naming structure you
>>> wouldn't have to worry about deleting the clients from Viper Enterprise
>>> server when because it just sees the agents by computer name and not SID or
>>> anything.  When the new clones came back up they would get the agent
>>> installed via GPO again and then start talking to the Enterprise server like
>>> normal.  My rambling make sense?
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* Jeff Cain [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:15 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>>
>>> *Subject:* RE: VMWare View, How are you handling AV? (Viper to be
>>> specific)
>>>
>>> N Parr,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             I am assuming here that you are using VIPRE Enterprise. I
>>> would recommend protecting each clone with VIPRE as the growth from
>>> definitions would be minimal, this is the best way to protect your systems
>>> and any machines they are connected to. I would also say that you should
>>>  reinstall the VIPRE agent after you clone the machine to prevent the
>>> Enterprise Console from confusing the machines as they’ll have the same
>>> agent GUID in the console. As far as licensing goes, I don’t believe we hold
>>> VM installs against you.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jeff Cain
>>>
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>>> *From:* N Parr [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:06 AM
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* VMWare View, How are you handling AV? (Viper to be specific)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So does anyone have any pointers on this?  Are you just not worrying
>>> about it since you can wipe the linked clones out at any time if they get
>>> infected?  I'm sill worried about handling outbreak protection.  Don't care
>>> if the clone gets hosed but I don't want all my clones getting infected with
>>> something and trying to spread it around.  If you install AV on the base
>>> image and don't use persistent clones then they will have to update
>>> signatures every time they boot from the day the base image was created.  If
>>> you use persistent clones then their deltas will grow because of signatures
>>> being added every day.  And then you've got licensing and agents on linked
>>> clones trying to update from the enterprise server with a pc name that is
>>> different than the base image they were created from.  I don't think a lot
>>> of AV vendors have really thought this type of situation through.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ...
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Sherry Abercrombie
>>>
>>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>>> Arthur C. Clarke
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>>> --
>>> Sherry Abercrombie
>>>
>>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>>> Arthur C. Clarke
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>> --
>> Sherry Abercrombie
>>
>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>> Arthur C. Clarke
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-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke

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