I'm with you on the Win7 support. Its not quite 'there' for 32bit either IMO. We haven't seen any network issues so far and most of our users are coming over IPSec VPN tunnels. Were you running PCoIP or just regular RDP? We also have all roaming profiles, but we've tied the majority of our users so far to dedicated machines so they don't really roam. We haven't done any real thin clients yet, just loaded up XP Fundamentals on some older machines and installed the View client. What type of thin clients did you try?
From: James Rankin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: terminal services/citrix/xen desktop etc for bean counters. The lack of support for Windows 7 x64 was a major pain from the start. Templates not joining to the network properly when being provisioned, absolutely dire performance of high-end applications despite having 4GB of RAM on XP desktops, PoE thin clients freezing when scrolling, lots of network blips that we didn't ever see when using ICA - there were just way too many issues. Users were begging us to send them back to the Citrix published desktops. To some extent, I think some of the thin clients we have been sold have contributed to the problem, but it was the same company providing those that sold us View anyway. We also used mandatory profiles with AppSense on our Citrix desktops, and now use Citrix Profile Manager for our new Xen ones, whereas we were using standard Windows roaming profiles on View, which probably contributed to the absymal performance. And as from a management point of view - we only have two support staff, and when we gave View to eight users, they spent an entire week running through problems with these eight people. Once we sent everyone back to XenApp, our two support guys can quite easily cope with the needs of nearly 500 users. On 31 August 2010 16:39, Kelsey, John <[email protected]> wrote: Can you elaborate on the other reasons for dropping View? We're going the opposite way here, scrapping Citrix in favor of View. So far so good. We have about 120+ View desktops rolled out. We also had to overcome the multi monitor issue, but once we got that figured out its been moving right along. Thanks! From: James Rankin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: terminal services/citrix/xen desktop etc for bean counters. We run Citrix XenApp and use about 300 multiple monitor setups with SplitView 2010. VMWare View was a real PITA to get them working in - we eventually managed it, but for many other reasons we dropped View like a bad habit. SplitView fits our needs rather nicely, but it's a bit buggy on 2008 R2. Sometimes Acrobat Reader and IE windows will crash when SplitView is running, and you have to add an exception. It seems a lot more stable in XenApp 5. I can't speak to XenDesktop - I haven't been allowed to deploy it yet. But I'm willing to bet big money it handles multiple monitors better than VMWare View, and probably everything else as well. On 31 August 2010 15:54, Bill Humphries <[email protected]> wrote: So, does anyone have any experience with multiple monitors with any of these technologies? Is it horrible? Michael B. Smith wrote: [footer elided] On the Microsoft side of the fence, you would do this with App-V or MED-V; included if you have Software Assurance I believe. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -----Original Message----- From: Webster [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: terminal services/citrix/xen desktop etc for bean counters. This sounds like a job for either VM Hosted Apps or XenDesktop. Looks like you would need Private Image mode, but that is always open to debate. <gag> View? What is View? </gag> Carl Webster Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster -----Original Message----- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:[email protected]] Subject: terminal services/citrix/xen desktop etc for bean counters. Anyone here had any success with using these technologies in an accounting/CPA environment? I have a 25 person CPA client that is interested in doing something to support working remotely for a few employees and also opening a 3 or 4 person branch office in the near future. Lacerte and Quickbooks over a VPN just don't cut it. Some items that make the project difficult... 1) They went paperless a couple of years ago and dual monitors for everyone is important for workflow. So, we need good support of dual monitors. 2) User rights. Everyone right now is local admin on machines. You can thank intuit for making it near impossible to avoid. 3) Quickbooks (see intuit issue above) claims terminal services is not supported in anything but their enterprise version. They are a CPA firm and install multiple versions of quickbooks on workstations. Not sure if using a VM, rather than TS gets around this. 4) Software/Printer installs. Almost every intuit and CCH product they use comes with it's own PDF printer that must be installed. 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