My only response to that is what I have been told from two different Dell 
Support personnel.  I have had a drive fail in an array, both times I had 
online spares configured and when the first drive failed it took out the array. 
 I was told by the support personnel at Dell, this is normal, when any drive 
fails in a Raid Array it will probably take out the whole array.  Well to me 
that makes their Raid, more like Aid, since there is no redundancy.  After that 
we stopped ordering Dell's because if you are told that type of info it really 
makes you wonder about the quality of the products.  I have many SuperMicro 
servers, as a matter of fact 90% of our servers are Supermicro.  But the reason 
for that is I have SUPER Support for them 20 minutes away.  The company that 
makes them is 18 miles away.  They have also made some of the top 100 
Supercomputers in the world.  Where I live it will take 3-4 hours to get a tech 
out here to fix one of the Major vendors products.  Their nearest techs are 90 
minutes away.

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 8:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SuperMicro

"  But the new company now recommends Dell, they want to replace all our 
servers. "

Disagree, at least without something to back that up.

There *is* something to be said for having a homogenous family of servers, as 
far as support and 'institutional knowledge' goes.
For some more complex server applications, you might get better support from a 
SAN vendor, or a virtualization vendor, if they have already certified and 
worked with a particular vendor and their server equipment.

That said, I'd ask for an explanation of why your SuperMicro servers are 'junk' 
... can they show statistics and or detailed issues on the components in the 
SuperMicro that are not present for their chosen Dell ?

Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security
'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SuperMicro

There are many companies that do so, most of them are out west, but if you look 
up particular parts, several companies sell them and you can get them 
overnight. AS for re-selling, check out Craigslist or others.

We just had a company overlook our entire computer system here at the Museum 
and one of the main things they said was that SuperMicro was not the way to go. 
They called those servers junk. I have 7 SuperMicro servers and I love them. I 
go back to when Dell became a joke because of their failing support. I keep 
extra SuperMicro servers around to use to replace servers that may die. But the 
new company now recommends Dell, they want to replace all our servers.

Anyone else agree or disagree?



From: Webster [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SuperMicro

Isn't there someone on this list that resells SuperMicro equipment?  Would you 
mind contacting me off list?

Thanks


Webster
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