I use Forefront and MSE at home etc and while I like Microsoft (I don't wear any fanboy hats for any OS/Vendor) I can say at least this:
1. Their security software isn't as good as most other top vendors, it misses much more (from experience, not opinion). 2. I migrated away from a supposedly good vendor as their support was useless and the fp's/problems it _also_ added was worse and made my life miserable. 3. I have *NEVER* had an fp with mse or Forefront. Give a little get a little I suppose? What's worse, coming in tomorrow morning to find the entire domain down from a shitty dat that wreaked havoc or a rampant malware loose from lack of detection? Dunno, but if I had things my way, I would use Forerfont on the desktops as a result of its flawless "non breaking" track record and a different vendors av on a gateway and mailserver preventing anything from getting in. On anything truly important, it's on its own private segment without external media available for use:) jlc From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bink.nu | Free Microsoft Security Essentials Coming for Small Businesses - Bink.nu It's not a blank check to just do whatever you want and think you're protected, that's true. But neither are seat belts and yet seat belts are still a good idea. I absolutely encourage residential users to install MSE - because 75% of them won't install ANYTHING if they don't. And MSE is an awful lot better than nothing, and even better than some of the free products out there. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer ______________________________________________ Roland Schorr & Tower www.rolandschorr.com<http://www.rolandschorr.com/> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:35 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bink.nu | Free Microsoft Security Essentials Coming for Small Businesses - Bink.nu I don't follow what you mean here. My gripe is home-users using MSE with a sense of assurance of adequate protection. For the record, I don't hate Microsoft. But I have a couple of axes to grind against a couple of their product groups - just as I do with other companies. -- ME2 On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Steven Peck <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Not sure how it does that unless you just hate Microsoft and all that it stands for. On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Which goes back to my opinion of it for the residential/consumer. Its not adequate protection for the generally reckless and uninformed behavior of the general public. -- ME2 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Steven Peck <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: MSE is not currently for Business PCs. Using it on them violates the license. While they have announced a version for small businesses, it is not yet licensed for that purpose so it's good that you are a responsibile engineer and not viloating the ToS and potentially exposing your company to a liability it shouldn't have. As for work, that's why Microsoft provides WSUS so you can remain responsible in testing your environment. Steven On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: On 23 Sep 2010 at 15:33, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: > Not trying to be terribly anal here, but there are a few things I don't > trust to free products, and this is at the top of the list. > > MSE doesn't chart well comparatively imho, and from what I see in the > San Diego area, it doesn't perform well IRL[1]. One other thing -- for MSE to work and update, "Automatic Updates" have to be completely enabled. 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