Agreed.   High availability is more a function of industry and function than
of size.


*ASB *


On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have a similar requirement where core infrastructure (e.g.
> authentication, security stuff) needs to be up 4 or 5 9s, and in a disaster
> needed to be up again in minutes.  It was run active/active, or active/hot
> standby for a lot of that infrastructure. Five 9s is <30 seconds
> downtime/month.
>
> Costing a lot doesn't need to be a huge company. I worked for a large steel
> producer in Australia once. Having one of the furnaces offline would cost a
> similar amount of money.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2010 5:02 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Consultants
>
> Duuuuude. So, what they are like a $50 Billion company (if not more?)
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> [email protected]
> www.eaglemds.com
> ________________________________________
> From: Webster [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 4:52 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Consultants
>
> I had 1 client that had to be back up and running within 30 seconds to the
> disaster recovery center.  They had calculated downtime as costing them just
> over $100,000 per minute!  They spent almost $10,000,000 getting their
> HA/FT/DR stuff setup and tested.  They spent almost $1,000,000 just in
> Citrix NetScalers to ensure their users would be automatically routed to the
> DR site when needed.
>
> I also have another customer that from January 2 thru April 30 must be up
> and running with access to all data with "2 to 4 hours".  After April 30,
> they have a 5 day timeframe to be back running with access to all data.
>  Their HA/FT/DR costs are a lot less than the first customer.
>
>
> Webster
>
> From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:[email protected]]
> Subject: RE: Consultants
>
> "I'm not sure what my requirements are.... which is why I want to hire a
> consultant/consulting engineer to help me figure out what my needs are"
>
> My $0.02....Forget hiring a consultant for now. If you're dead set on
> getting a consultant, feel free to email me off-list. My rates are
> reasonable.
>
> You need to sit down with the business owners and explain:
>
> These are our applications:
>
> App1
> App2
> App3
>
> These are our data sets:
>
> Dataset1
> Dataset2
> Dataset3
>
> Then you need to ask the questions of the business owners/department heads
> for each application/dataset:
>
> What happens to the business if this specific app/dataset is unavailable
> for (as an example):
>
> 1 hour
> 4 hours
> 1 day
> 2 days
> 3 days
> 1 week
> 2 weeks
> 1 month
>
> You also need to list weaknesses and vulnerabilities of your
> network/data/applications/etc, which may alter the perspective of your
> business owners (particularly for anything that may be unique to your
> environment).
>
> Then ask, "What does it cost the business per hour/day/week in terms of
> lost revenue or productivity dollars if this application/dataset is
> unavailable?" This gives you a framework within which you can come up with a
> reasonable budget for your solution.
>
> THEN, MAYBE it will be time for you to hire a consultant.
>
>

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