Perfect! On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Pete Howard <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Jonathan Link <[email protected]> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thu, September 30, 2010 11:12:42 AM > *Subject:* Re: Consultants > > *facepalm* > > > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:48 AM, John Aldrich < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Yeah. I'm aware of those two terms, and depending on the system, the RTO >> and >> RPO are different. That being said, I think the majority of our Microsoft >> stuff could probably survive being a couple days or so behind. Our iSeries >> (AS/400) we need to be able to recover as much as possible as quickly as >> possible! :-) >> >> How to accomplish that.... good question, and I need to double-check with >> Management about how much they're willing to risk and how quickly they >> need >> to get it all back. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:30 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Consultants >> >> Look up RTO and RPO - they are two distinct (though related) things. >> >> How quickly does something have to be up? >> How much data can you afford to lose? >> >> E.g. there may be no point getting something back up again in 1 hour if >> the >> newest backup you have was from 1 week ago. >> >> Cheers >> Ken >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2010 4:23 AM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Consultants >> >> Thanks, Jonathan. I think I have some handle on some of that. I know >> pretty >> much everything depends on the AS/400 (iSeries) as our entire operation >> runs >> off that. After that it's somewhat up in the air. I've found a >> downloadable >> template that I'll take a look at. >> >> >> >> From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 4:18 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Consultants >> >> "I'm not sure what my requirements are.... which is why I want to hire a >> consultant/consulting engineer to help me figure out what my needs are" >> >> My $0.02....Forget hiring a consultant for now. If you're dead set on >> getting a consultant, feel free to email me off-list. My rates are >> reasonable. >> >> You need to sit down with the business owners and explain: >> >> These are our applications: >> >> App1 >> App2 >> App3 >> >> These are our data sets: >> >> Dataset1 >> Dataset2 >> Dataset3 >> >> Then you need to ask the questions of the business owners/department heads >> for each application/dataset: >> >> What happens to the business if this specific app/dataset is unavailable >> for >> (as an example): >> >> 1 hour >> 4 hours >> 1 day >> 2 days >> 3 days >> 1 week >> 2 weeks >> 1 month >> >> You also need to list weaknesses and vulnerabilities of your >> network/data/applications/etc, which may alter the perspective of your >> business owners (particularly for anything that may be unique to your >> environment). >> >> Then ask, "What does it cost the business per hour/day/week in terms of >> lost >> revenue or productivity dollars if this application/dataset is >> unavailable?" >> This gives you a framework within which you can come up with a reasonable >> budget for your solution. >> >> THEN, MAYBE it will be time for you to hire a consultant. >> >> But don't take my word for it... >> >> >> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=information+systems+business+impact+analysis+templa >> te >> >> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE >> Technology Coordinator >> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA >> [email protected] >> www.eaglemds.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:16 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Consultants >> >> Exactly. I'm not sure what my requirements are. I have a few ideas... some >> things that folks have asked in my numerous posts, I have no idea, which >> is >> why I want to hire a consultant/consulting engineer to help me figure out >> what my needs are and then, perhaps, help me evaluate some of the >> proposals >> that I have already gathered. :-) I mean, I know I have "X" amount data >> currently, and that probably doesn't change a whole lot. I know that among >> the Desktop PCs I have "Y" amount of data in the current user profile, >> most >> of which probably doesn't change a lot (other than PST files...*shudder*) >> and I know that I'd like to migrate most of the "Y" data to the network, >> for >> D/R purposes. I also want to look at bringing email in-house. According to >> the manufacturer, you should have "Z" amount of disk space for the mail >> store. That brings me up to in the neighborhood of 1.5 to 2 terabytes of >> disk space needed. >> >> What's the best option to have that much disk space and ensure the domain >> is >> available, along with the data, etc in case of a disaster... I haven't a >> clue. As someone else pointed out, simply deploying a SAN is not going to >> save my butt in case of a disaster. It might help prevent data loss, but >> if >> the whole facility is destroyed, a SAN isn't going to save my bacon. :-) >> >> I need a good D/R consultant to help me with all these questions. :-) >> >> >> >> From: Gary Slinger [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:58 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: Consultants >> >> Generally, if you know what you want and you just need to bounce some >> ideas >> around, I'd give you my guys time for free to tweak the end solution, with >> the belief that we'd be doing the implementation. If you wanted them to >> actually start from a blank slate, do a requirements gathering, and design >> a >> solution for you, we'd want to charge you for that, as the design and >> requirements would be deliverables in their own right that you might or >> might not use to procure an implementation solution from us. >> >> (And I'm hardware agnostic. I only care about Services). >> >> What you have below, "give them your needs", implies the first scenario >> above. Which ain't necessarily the case here... >> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Paul Hutchings < >> [email protected]> >> wrote: >> Not sure if it differs in the US but I'm a bit unsure why you're talking >> about "hiring" consultants? >> >> Why not just invite in a bunch of VAR's, go through your needs and ask >> them >> to quote on a solution? >> >> And to echo others thoughts, manufacturers will obviously have an agenda, >> resellers will have an agenda (to sell you something just from a bit wider >> pool), and even the best meaning consultant will have a certain bias based >> off what they're familiar with (not to say it won't be a good solution, >> but >> you take the point). >> >> I wouldn't expect you to have to be paying anyone a bean to get some >> detailed options. >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to [email protected] >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary K. 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