*facepalm*
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:48 AM, John Aldrich <[email protected] > wrote: > Yeah. I'm aware of those two terms, and depending on the system, the RTO > and > RPO are different. That being said, I think the majority of our Microsoft > stuff could probably survive being a couple days or so behind. Our iSeries > (AS/400) we need to be able to recover as much as possible as quickly as > possible! :-) > > How to accomplish that.... good question, and I need to double-check with > Management about how much they're willing to risk and how quickly they need > to get it all back. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:30 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Consultants > > Look up RTO and RPO - they are two distinct (though related) things. > > How quickly does something have to be up? > How much data can you afford to lose? > > E.g. there may be no point getting something back up again in 1 hour if the > newest backup you have was from 1 week ago. > > Cheers > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2010 4:23 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Consultants > > Thanks, Jonathan. I think I have some handle on some of that. I know pretty > much everything depends on the AS/400 (iSeries) as our entire operation > runs > off that. After that it's somewhat up in the air. I've found a downloadable > template that I'll take a look at. > > > > From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 4:18 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Consultants > > "I'm not sure what my requirements are.... which is why I want to hire a > consultant/consulting engineer to help me figure out what my needs are" > > My $0.02....Forget hiring a consultant for now. If you're dead set on > getting a consultant, feel free to email me off-list. My rates are > reasonable. > > You need to sit down with the business owners and explain: > > These are our applications: > > App1 > App2 > App3 > > These are our data sets: > > Dataset1 > Dataset2 > Dataset3 > > Then you need to ask the questions of the business owners/department heads > for each application/dataset: > > What happens to the business if this specific app/dataset is unavailable > for > (as an example): > > 1 hour > 4 hours > 1 day > 2 days > 3 days > 1 week > 2 weeks > 1 month > > You also need to list weaknesses and vulnerabilities of your > network/data/applications/etc, which may alter the perspective of your > business owners (particularly for anything that may be unique to your > environment). > > Then ask, "What does it cost the business per hour/day/week in terms of > lost > revenue or productivity dollars if this application/dataset is > unavailable?" > This gives you a framework within which you can come up with a reasonable > budget for your solution. > > THEN, MAYBE it will be time for you to hire a consultant. > > But don't take my word for it... > > > http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=information+systems+business+impact+analysis+templa > te > > Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE > Technology Coordinator > Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA > [email protected] > www.eaglemds.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:16 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Consultants > > Exactly. I'm not sure what my requirements are. I have a few ideas... some > things that folks have asked in my numerous posts, I have no idea, which is > why I want to hire a consultant/consulting engineer to help me figure out > what my needs are and then, perhaps, help me evaluate some of the proposals > that I have already gathered. :-) I mean, I know I have "X" amount data > currently, and that probably doesn't change a whole lot. I know that among > the Desktop PCs I have "Y" amount of data in the current user profile, most > of which probably doesn't change a lot (other than PST files...*shudder*) > and I know that I'd like to migrate most of the "Y" data to the network, > for > D/R purposes. I also want to look at bringing email in-house. According to > the manufacturer, you should have "Z" amount of disk space for the mail > store. That brings me up to in the neighborhood of 1.5 to 2 terabytes of > disk space needed. > > What's the best option to have that much disk space and ensure the domain > is > available, along with the data, etc in case of a disaster... I haven't a > clue. As someone else pointed out, simply deploying a SAN is not going to > save my butt in case of a disaster. It might help prevent data loss, but if > the whole facility is destroyed, a SAN isn't going to save my bacon. :-) > > I need a good D/R consultant to help me with all these questions. :-) > > > > From: Gary Slinger [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:58 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Consultants > > Generally, if you know what you want and you just need to bounce some ideas > around, I'd give you my guys time for free to tweak the end solution, with > the belief that we'd be doing the implementation. If you wanted them to > actually start from a blank slate, do a requirements gathering, and design > a > solution for you, we'd want to charge you for that, as the design and > requirements would be deliverables in their own right that you might or > might not use to procure an implementation solution from us. > > (And I'm hardware agnostic. I only care about Services). > > What you have below, "give them your needs", implies the first scenario > above. Which ain't necessarily the case here... > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Paul Hutchings <[email protected] > > > wrote: > Not sure if it differs in the US but I'm a bit unsure why you're talking > about "hiring" consultants? > > Why not just invite in a bunch of VAR's, go through your needs and ask them > to quote on a solution? > > And to echo others thoughts, manufacturers will obviously have an agenda, > resellers will have an agenda (to sell you something just from a bit wider > pool), and even the best meaning consultant will have a certain bias based > off what they're familiar with (not to say it won't be a good solution, but > you take the point). > > I wouldn't expect you to have to be paying anyone a bean to get some > detailed options. > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > -- > Gary K. 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