*>>**It’s the downside of a growing company, *

...with ineffective leadership.   And the ineffective part doesn't have to
be a personal knock.  People who are great leaders of 20, 50 or even 100
people are not necessarily great leaders of 300, 500, 1000.   And vice
versa.   The rules of an organization must change and adapt as growth takes
place, or things will be very inefficient and costly.

My recommendation is to put together a couple of proposals, then sit with
your boss, and talk about getting this implemented.  If they decide to do
it, that's great.  If not, you still learned some things, and you can save
it in your file for the first time the backup strategy fails and they want a
"what do we do now?!?" answer.


*-ASB*
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:01 AM, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote:

>  We have 50-60 users that work remote and aren’t in the office, and we
> have several execs that are in the office perhaps 50% of the time and a
> couple dozen other frequent travelers. For the developers we use SVN,
> “always local” users use either SharePoint or a mapped drive.
>
>
>
> Reading your replies and thinking through this I wonder if we need to
> re-evaluate the scope of who we back up and who we don’t, not sure I’ll get
> management buy in to not offer it at all.
>
>
>
> ASB you’re correct, the problem is organizational…we have a lot of that
> around here. It’s the downside of a growing company, they sometimes still
> think in “we have just 50 employees, not 500” and don’t comprehend some
> decisions they make don’t scale without significant extra cost/effort (Mac
> OS as a workstation machine, for example).
>
>
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
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>   ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:38 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Server team, desktop team, and me in the middle..
>
>
>
> What stuff do you need to backup from workstations? Code can be solved by
> having a central source code control repository (TFS, SVN etc). Most other
> things are documents (use file servers) and email.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 13 October 2010 11:45 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Server team, desktop team, and me in the middle..
>
>
>
> Looking to see what other orgs of about 400-500 users do. We're effectively
> a software developement shop, so we have a couple hundred servers (of which
> about 30 are in my arena, ton of dev ones that only developers maintain)),
> plus about 450 workstations. The issue we're how best to miantain the
> environment - specifically the "middle" where antvirus, patching, backups
> and software deployment land.
>
>
>
> Specifically I'm thinking backups and antivirus .We currently use Tivoli
> for our servers and workstations - the trick being we only back up one
> folder in folks' workstations. The Se team owns/operate the entire Tivoli
> system, the problem is we run into enough issues that going between the
> Service Desk guys and the SE team it's cumbersome to resolve issues. I'm
> wondering at what point the SD guys might want to roll with their own backup
> solution, or perhaps is there a better way to manage our current setup?
>
>
>
> Antivirus is almost the reverse of this as I manage our AV, including all
> the AV on our servers...nothing like a fuzzy line..
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>

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