LOL. You have yet to see me "irritated to the extreme" or "aggravated".
You also have a flawed procurement policy. Read the other posts that were made. Your only legitimate comment regarding pricing is when the /reseller/ doesn't post pricing. That's just silly. Even if/when a manufacturer posts prices - for instance, Microsoft - what's the point? Who pays retail? On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Ralph Smith <[email protected]>wrote: > Hey Gary, > > Based on your often vitriolic responses to John's posts, he obviously > irritates you to an extreme. Why don't you just filter out his posts and > save yourself the aggravation? > > To quote Stu's often repeated mantra, "Remember: on topic, no noise, > FRIENDLY." > > > At the risk of earning your contempt myself I generally agree with John in > regards to companies that don't post their prices on their web sites. That's > surely their choice and part of their sales strategy, but for me, working at > a non-profit with a very small budget, I have learned to just pass them by. > > Many times in the past I have inquired with them for pricing information, > and nearly 100% of the time the results have been that they are well out of > the realm of possibility for me. For companies that don't sell direct, the > same applies if pricing is not available on their reseller's sites either. > > This is of course for products that fall into the category of "would be > really nice to have", not mission critical applications or devices. > > Ralph Smith > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gary Slinger [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:21 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Color issues > > > > Hey, I've joked before that my role of supervising engineers is like > > teaching kindergarten. > > > > Well today, even more so. It's remedial level IT procurement tuition day > > :) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Steven M. Caesare" <[email protected]> > > Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:09:44 > > To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> > > Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected] > > software.com>Subject: RE: Color issues > > > > The issue is not requiring spoonfeeding. > > > > -sc > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:08 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Color issues > > > > You go to the car dealership and see a car you like. If there were no > > sticker in the window saying how much it cost would you A) Go ask B) walk > > off the lot? I've always operated under the attitude of "if I have to > ask, > > it's too much." Checking the price, it appears that ColorMunki is more > > expensive. That being said it's made by Pantone, the folks who make the > > color charts, so that may be something to consider as well. > > > > > > > > From: Gary Slinger [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 3:22 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Color issues > > > > Are you fscking shitting me? > > > > I can't even be bothered to wrap this in a just fscking google it: > > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=colormunki&tbs=shop%3A1&aq=f > > > > Here, even easier: > > > > http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field- > > keywords > > =colormunki > > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM, John Aldrich > > <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > Thanks... I looked at ColorMunki, but I didn't see a price. That scares > > me. :D At least with the Spyders, I know up-front what it costs. :D > > > > > > > > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 2:36 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Color issues > > > > +1 on the Spyders. They are very popular in the pro-photographer crowd. > > > > -- > > ME2 > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Kennedy, Jim > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > You have to calibrate the monitor. I do this for my photography. I have > > always preferred the Spyder calibrators but there are others. > > > > http://spyder.datacolor.com/product-mc.php > > > > Now, you have one more variable. Is your camera accurately capturing the > > color and is your software properly interpreting the data in the image. > > Probably not. So you calibrate the monitor....but you display a picture > > that has bad color data. Only way to get it near perfect is to shoot a > > color card next to the carpet sample....then adjust the image in > photoshop > > so the color card colors are correct. > > > > However, if you skip the color card step you should be pretty darn close > > with a decent camera and proper lighting. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:53 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Color issues > > > > Our marketing guy is also our product design guy. He's got some special > > software that allows him to take a carpet pattern and make a picture of > > what it should look like. We then post that picture on our website. One > of > > the managers was complaining because the colors don't match up to the > > actual sample. I have tried to explain to him that it will vary quite a > > bit depending on the type of machine and monitor you're looking at the > > picture on. We showed the same picture on four different monitors hooked > > up to two different machines and got four different colors, a couple of > > them dramatically different from the other 2. Two of the monitors were > > Dell LCD desktop monitors, one was a Dell XPS laptop screen, the 4th was > > an IBM flat panel. It was the darkest and "greenest" even after resetting > > the monitor to the factory specs using the on-board reset. > > Now that I've explained the problem... any suggestions on how to get > > things so that they closely approximate the actual product? > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to [email protected] > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to [email protected] > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to [email protected] > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to [email protected] > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > > > > > -- > > Gary K. 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