On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 4:10 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> Show ip route:

  VLANs and IP routing are two different layers.  Conflating the two
leads to confusion.

> From the laptop I can ping the Procurve switch but anything on the 4510 side 
> (native vlan)

  The above sentence appears to be missing words.

> If this was just Cisco, I would guess it to be a trunking problem but I
> understand Procurve trunking is like Cisco's etherchannel.

  "VLAN trunks" are a Ciscoism that doesn't exist in the 802.1Q
protocol.  An Ethernet frame either has a VLAN tag, or it doesn't.  If
it has a tag, the tag specifies the VLAN the frame is associated with.
 If a frame lacks a tag, it's up to the switch to decide what to do
with the frame.  It's also up to the switch to decide what frames to
emit on a port, and if/how to tag them.

  IIRC, in Cisco-land, a "VLAN trunk port" is a port that tags all
frames it emits, and expects to receive the same.

  Here's my standard response to VLAN questions:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg58753.html

-- Ben

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