The next 9-12 months are key for both Microsoft and Citrix here, because if they can close the perception gap on some of these features, then it's going to be a different ballgame for a while.
* * *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Kramer, Jack <[email protected]>wrote: > As a SMB group in a large enterprise we're going to be hit by this > licensing change. I have a 4 host cluster, 2 CPUs per host, with 2 hosts at > 96GB and 2 at 48GB. I was planning on upgrading the 48s to 96 shortly but at > this point I probably wouldn't be able to pay for the licenses needed to do > that. With my 8 Enterprise licenses I'm already going to be licensed for > only 256GB of my 288GB physical RAM so without any upgrade I'm going to need > another CPU license just to use all the RAM I have now. If I want to > upgrade? Might as well switch my Enterprise licenses for Enterprise Plus, > with the corresponding per-socket purchase and support increase, or just > forget about getting any more RAM for my hosts. > > vSphere 5 has a ton of new features, and several of them pay off big for my > environment (especially things like datastore improvements, etc) but at what > cost? Hyper-V isn't at the moment a viable solution – MelioFS from Sanbolic > gets you hot migration and the Microsoft equivalent of working HA mode with > relatively immediate failover but you still don't have a good solution for > Fault Tolerant VMs like vSphere offers and their virtual networking is much > more primitive. Windows 8 and Hyper-V 3.0, though, are now positioned to > drive a stake into VMware's heart if they can develop a FT solution and > perhaps get Sanbolic to drop their pricing a bit. > > ---- > Jack Kramer > Manager of Information Technology > University Relations, Michigan State University > w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955 > > From: "Andrew S. Baker" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:12:46 -0400 > > To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: vSphere 5 - Big License Changes > > Depends on how you define SMB.... > > I work for/with two that do. > > For most workloads, RAM is more of a bottleneck than CPU, and in a heavily > virtualized environment, you're going to see lots of RAM. > > We have 4 VSphere hosts that we just upgraded to 120GB of RAM -- quad core > boxes... Plus two new ones with 144GB, also quad core. > > > > ** > > *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of > Technology for the SMB market… > > * > > > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]>wrote: > >> How many SMBs run more than 24GB per proc now? I honestly can't see that >> many that would. >> I'm licensed for 6 proc's, meaning in my environment I could run a total >> of 144GB . I don't see this being a big deal for us in the SMB space. My >> hosts have less memory than the processor limit, as it is. Will this >> increase overtime? Likely. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Webster <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> One analyst says for some large VMware shops with large VMs this could >>> quadruple their VMware licensing costs.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Another analyst says VMware is sending a clear message to SMBs, “You >>> can’t afford us”.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Like MBS, I am NOT a VMware person. This is just my $0.02US worth.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Webster**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] >>> *Subject:* RE: vSphere 5 - Big License Changes**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Great way for vmware to drive customers to Hyper-V.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Regards,**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Michael B. Smith**** >>> >>> Consultant and Exchange MVP**** >>> >>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]] >>> *Subject:* vSphere 5 - Big License Changes**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> >>> http://blogs.softchoice.com/advisor/2011/07/12/big-changes-in-licensing-model-for-vmware-vsphere-5-vmware/ >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Note how licensing is moving to be CPU based but limited by vRam.**** >>> >>> >>> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
