hear hear

On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:16 AM, J Bills wrote:

> just trying it for the first time.  having a hard time trying to get it to do 
> what I want and several things seem counterintuitive.  anyone else out there 
> having success with it?  am I missing something?
> 
> I've got gobs of roto for this shot I'm on, and all I want to do is warp a 
> clean plate for a few frames to remove a rig.  simple enough - seems like a 
> textbook case.
> 
> should be as easy as:
> -copy roto already done of the area I want into splinewarp node
> -delete source keyframes on roto except for key on clean plate frame 
> (reference frame) - so if clean plate was painted on frame 45 I'd delete all 
> keys except for 45 on the source.
> -leave destination keys alone so that the source warps from frame 45 position 
> to current frame using original roto
> -then I just play with correspondance points, pinning, warp settings and 
> boundaries until it looks good.
> 
> nope, can't seem to get the roto in there and working.
> 
> I can copy and paste it in but beyond that the shapes are very hard to work 
> with.  instead of independant source and destination shapes, they appear to 
> be the same shape!  I can't seem to get access to one set of keys without 
> manipulating the other.  If I try to delete out all of the keyframes on my 
> 'source' shape, it just deletes the destination keys as well.
> 
> I thought the whole point of redesigning it was to make it play nice with the 
> new roto tools and make everything interchangable like it was in shake (and 
> ER before it), where you could easily shuffle roto in and out.  imperative 
> for good warping, because eventually those same shapes become your matte to 
> help blend the warped area with the original plate. 
> 
> as it is, unless I'm missing something (which I hope I am!) it seems like 
> we're expected to originate all of the roto within the node and are unable to 
> edit it much after the fact independently between source/destiantion.  I'm 
> not quite sure what that type of workflow is good for, but apparently it will 
> warp the face of a lion from the manual nicely.  will have to remember that 
> next time that comes up.  :-/
> 
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