I was just playing with that today and had all the same thoughts as you. -E

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Bill Gilman <[email protected]> wrote:

> hear hear
>
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:16 AM, J Bills wrote:
>
> > just trying it for the first time.  having a hard time trying to get it
> to do what I want and several things seem counterintuitive.  anyone else out
> there having success with it?  am I missing something?
> >
> > I've got gobs of roto for this shot I'm on, and all I want to do is warp
> a clean plate for a few frames to remove a rig.  simple enough - seems like
> a textbook case.
> >
> > should be as easy as:
> > -copy roto already done of the area I want into splinewarp node
> > -delete source keyframes on roto except for key on clean plate frame
> (reference frame) - so if clean plate was painted on frame 45 I'd delete all
> keys except for 45 on the source.
> > -leave destination keys alone so that the source warps from frame 45
> position to current frame using original roto
> > -then I just play with correspondance points, pinning, warp settings and
> boundaries until it looks good.
> >
> > nope, can't seem to get the roto in there and working.
> >
> > I can copy and paste it in but beyond that the shapes are very hard to
> work with.  instead of independant source and destination shapes, they
> appear to be the same shape!  I can't seem to get access to one set of keys
> without manipulating the other.  If I try to delete out all of the keyframes
> on my 'source' shape, it just deletes the destination keys as well.
> >
> > I thought the whole point of redesigning it was to make it play nice with
> the new roto tools and make everything interchangable like it was in shake
> (and ER before it), where you could easily shuffle roto in and out.
>  imperative for good warping, because eventually those same shapes become
> your matte to help blend the warped area with the original plate.
> >
> > as it is, unless I'm missing something (which I hope I am!) it seems like
> we're expected to originate all of the roto within the node and are unable
> to edit it much after the fact independently between source/destiantion.
>  I'm not quite sure what that type of workflow is good for, but apparently
> it will warp the face of a lion from the manual nicely.  will have to
> remember that next time that comes up.  :-/
> >
> >
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