Regarding default opening behaviour: Nuke should remember which sliders you
had shown in $HOME/.nuke/uistate.ini. If it's not working for you, then
that's a bug. I do remember having problems with this in the past but it
appears to be working fine in 7.0v5. -E


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Martin Constabe <[email protected]>wrote:

> Howard: I agree with your enthusiasm on the ability to make very long
> sliders. Is great.
>
> I am also hooked on the ability to make a color balance correction using T
> then being able to refine it with an R or a B. Is great and I miss that in
> every other app I have.
>
> Fair enough on the points about screen real estate.
>
> However, I stand by my point about the need for a little more minimum
> space between the sliders. I think Ean's mock up is a good solution.
>
> One more point… a small but significant one. After a new install, the
> default opening behavior in the Windows (and maybe Mac) Nuke color picker
> pallet is (I recall) for all the sliders to be open at once. I think that
> by changing this to only the HSV sliders being open will be a significant
> improvement. Newbies will be less confused and battle weary pros will not
> care one way or another.
>
> I know that Nuke is not, and will never be a app for greenhorns. However,
> as long as it is taught in schools such as mine, easing newbies into a
> painless user experience will always be an issue.
>
>
>
> Martin
>
>
> On Apr 11, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Howard Jones wrote:
>
> > I quite like 3 (you missed off one slider). I always use it landscape as
> my screen is wider and if I stretch it full width I get a great granularity.
> >
> > However in 3 you still use up UI because the bars are not hiding but
> collapsing the sliders. Plus it doesn't take long to know just by looking
> that a set of sliders are RGB or HSV
> >
> > From a UI design IMHO by adding a divider between the colour wheel and
> the sliders you are breaking the connection between the colour wheel and
> the sliders. Though subtle isn't an improvement to me.
> >
> > Howard
> >
> > On 11 Apr 2013, at 04:56, Martin Constabe <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Whoops. Pallete_03.png should have looked like this…
> >>
> >>
> >> <pallete_03.png>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Martin Constabe wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am now in front of my Nuke and playing with the color picker. I
> think that a lot of the issues that I raised could be dealt with by
> slightly expanded minimum spacing values. I often see student staring at
> the pallet in the attached configuration (pallet_01.png). The bars are far
> too close for comfort. In pallet_02.png all I have done is to expand the
> pallet a bit and, in photoshop, shrink the color wheel a bit. This I feel
> is easier to read.
> >>>
> >>> I can not find the student's work on this topic. But one thing that I
> recall as being a sensible idea was to reconfigure the color space buttons
> in the manner show in pallet_03.png. This is observant of the simple
> principle: that buttons and their associated actions should be visually
> related. I also moved the before / after sample swatch to a more agreeable
> position and sightly increased the spacing on the top bar to accommodate a
> larger swatch. This is to reflect its importance. I also added a divider
> line between the wheel and the rest of the pallet.
> >>>
> >>> These are not behavior changes so much as readability changes.
> >>>
> >>> Personally I am a big fan of MODOS's interface. They have done an
> excellent job of maintaining consistency and usability. However, I am a
> bigger fan of Nuke's nimbleness (MODO can be a tad sticky sometimes).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> <pallete_03.png>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> <pallet_01.png><Pallet_02.png>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:45 PM, Howard Jones wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Glad you said that. I find it really good so I'd be interested in
> what the too many cooks bit is.
> >>>> Only thing I'd like is save able pallettes and then only once in a
> blue moon.
> >>>>
> >>>> But if there's something better I'm all ears. (We are talking about
> the colour wheel slider thingy aren't we?)
> >>>>
> >>>> Howard
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10 Apr 2013, at 14:37, "Diogo Girondi" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I too would love to see what would you consider the ideal color
> picker palette.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Last time it changed it was for the worse and they end up rolling it
> back to its original design. I remember giving a few stabs my self at that
> time and all I could do was to make it a bit fancier/prettier.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Ean Carr <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hey Martin, how would you prefer it then? IMO, the color picker
> hasn't changed much over the years because it functions like the majority
> of users want it to, me included. But I'm all ears if you can dream up
> something better :) -Ean
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Martin Constabe <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>> When I teach interface design I show them Nuke's color picker pallet
> as an example of 'too many cooks spoil the broth'.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mar 27, 2013, at 6:01 PM, Rich T wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> > [quote="Elias"]Just resize the window and you'll get the other
> layout
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Thanks Elias, that was easy
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Rich
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Richard Turner
> >>>>> > Digital Media
> >>>>> > Central Institute of Technology
> >>>>> > Perth. WA
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