Thanks! Martin
On Apr 12, 2013, at 2:59 AM, Marten Blumen wrote: > just add to ~/.nuke/uistate.ini > > [ColorPicker] > ShownColorSpaces\RGB=true > ShownColorSpaces\HSV=true > ShownColorSpaces\TMI=true > ShownColorSpaces\Wheel=true > ShownColorSpaces\Swatches=true > Dynamic=false > > > > On 12 April 2013 02:12, Martin Constabe <[email protected]> wrote: > A bug? I thought it was a feature! > > Actually, what I was referring to was the behavior that it defaults to in a > fresh-out-the-box situation. i.e. the very first time that a user opens Nuke. > IMHO the pristine install opening state is a crucial part of the user > experience in any software. > > Martin > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 10:02 PM, Ean Carr wrote: > > > Regarding default opening behaviour: Nuke should remember which sliders you > > had shown in $HOME/.nuke/uistate.ini. If it's not working for you, then > > that's a bug. I do remember having problems with this in the past but it > > appears to be working fine in 7.0v5. -E > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Martin Constabe <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > Howard: I agree with your enthusiasm on the ability to make very long > > sliders. Is great. > > > > I am also hooked on the ability to make a color balance correction using T > > then being able to refine it with an R or a B. Is great and I miss that in > > every other app I have. > > > > Fair enough on the points about screen real estate. > > > > However, I stand by my point about the need for a little more minimum space > > between the sliders. I think Ean's mock up is a good solution. > > > > One more point… a small but significant one. After a new install, the > > default opening behavior in the Windows (and maybe Mac) Nuke color picker > > pallet is (I recall) for all the sliders to be open at once. I think that > > by changing this to only the HSV sliders being open will be a significant > > improvement. Newbies will be less confused and battle weary pros will not > > care one way or another. > > > > I know that Nuke is not, and will never be a app for greenhorns. However, > > as long as it is taught in schools such as mine, easing newbies into a > > painless user experience will always be an issue. > > > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Howard Jones wrote: > > > > > I quite like 3 (you missed off one slider). I always use it landscape as > > > my screen is wider and if I stretch it full width I get a great > > > granularity. > > > > > > However in 3 you still use up UI because the bars are not hiding but > > > collapsing the sliders. Plus it doesn't take long to know just by looking > > > that a set of sliders are RGB or HSV > > > > > > From a UI design IMHO by adding a divider between the colour wheel and > > > the sliders you are breaking the connection between the colour wheel and > > > the sliders. Though subtle isn't an improvement to me. > > > > > > Howard > > > > > > On 11 Apr 2013, at 04:56, Martin Constabe <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Whoops. Pallete_03.png should have looked like this… > > >> > > >> > > >> <pallete_03.png> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Martin Constabe wrote: > > >> > > >>> I am now in front of my Nuke and playing with the color picker. I think > > >>> that a lot of the issues that I raised could be dealt with by slightly > > >>> expanded minimum spacing values. I often see student staring at the > > >>> pallet in the attached configuration (pallet_01.png). The bars are far > > >>> too close for comfort. In pallet_02.png all I have done is to expand > > >>> the pallet a bit and, in photoshop, shrink the color wheel a bit. This > > >>> I feel is easier to read. > > >>> > > >>> I can not find the student's work on this topic. But one thing that I > > >>> recall as being a sensible idea was to reconfigure the color space > > >>> buttons in the manner show in pallet_03.png. This is observant of the > > >>> simple principle: that buttons and their associated actions should be > > >>> visually related. I also moved the before / after sample swatch to a > > >>> more agreeable position and sightly increased the spacing on the top > > >>> bar to accommodate a larger swatch. This is to reflect its importance. > > >>> I also added a divider line between the wheel and the rest of the > > >>> pallet. > > >>> > > >>> These are not behavior changes so much as readability changes. > > >>> > > >>> Personally I am a big fan of MODOS's interface. They have done an > > >>> excellent job of maintaining consistency and usability. However, I am a > > >>> bigger fan of Nuke's nimbleness (MODO can be a tad sticky sometimes). > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> <pallete_03.png> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> <pallet_01.png><Pallet_02.png> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:45 PM, Howard Jones wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Glad you said that. I find it really good so I'd be interested in what > > >>>> the too many cooks bit is. > > >>>> Only thing I'd like is save able pallettes and then only once in a > > >>>> blue moon. > > >>>> > > >>>> But if there's something better I'm all ears. (We are talking about > > >>>> the colour wheel slider thingy aren't we?) > > >>>> > > >>>> Howard > > >>>> > > >>>> On 10 Apr 2013, at 14:37, "Diogo Girondi" <[email protected]> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> I too would love to see what would you consider the ideal color > > >>>>> picker palette. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Last time it changed it was for the worse and they end up rolling it > > >>>>> back to its original design. I remember giving a few stabs my self at > > >>>>> that time and all I could do was to make it a bit fancier/prettier. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Ean Carr <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Hey Martin, how would you prefer it then? IMO, the color picker > > >>>>> hasn't changed much over the years because it functions like the > > >>>>> majority of users want it to, me included. But I'm all ears if you > > >>>>> can dream up something better :) -Ean > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Martin Constabe > > >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>> When I teach interface design I show them Nuke's color picker pallet > > >>>>> as an example of 'too many cooks spoil the broth'. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Mar 27, 2013, at 6:01 PM, Rich T wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > [quote="Elias"]Just resize the window and you'll get the other > > >>>>> > layout > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > Thanks Elias, that was easy > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > Rich > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > Richard Turner > > >>>>> > Digital Media > > >>>>> > Central Institute of Technology > > >>>>> > Perth. 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