Here's my response to another article: http://www.science20.com/physics_foundations/blog/numenta_the_bruce_lee_of_ai_and_deep_learning-154801#comment-185209
@Alex, Numenta doesn't do deep learning in any sense of the word. The two approaches are distinct. Numenta's algorithms are true recreations of neurological processes and are (hate to say it so explicitly) superior to processes utilizing simple network nodes. Deep learning has taken us a certain distance and is very useful up to a point - I don't mean to really "rank" any particular approach, however, Numenta's algorithms are a quantum leap ahead of what's currently happening with network nodes. Mind you, Numenta is just getting started so its like comparing analog watches made from cogs and wheels to unfinished circuitry comprising a watch circuit board made from discrete digital components. Right now the "cogs and wheels" are getting superior results, but when the digital circuit board is finished - the shift in result quality will not even be comparable in scale! Metaphorically, it won't matter how good the cogs and wheels are, and within how many milliseconds the accuracy can be controlled - when Numenta is finished, its scale will be in the nano-seconds and unreachable by the "cogs and wheels" technology. Read more: http://www.science20.com/physics_foundations/blog/numenta_the_bruce_lee_of_ai_and_deep_learning-154801#ixzz3XJIPHAn5 On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 11:08 AM, cogmission (David Ray) < [email protected]> wrote: > Here's another article featuring Subutai! Nicely done! > http://phys.org/news/2015-04-ibm-peers-numenta-machine-intelligence.html > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 6:07 AM, cogmission (David Ray) < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hey Fergal! >> >> Where have you been? Thanks for the links, and specifically pointing to >> Jeff's talk at Sandia. >> >> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 4:15 AM, Fergal Byrne < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> This (partially rehashed) piece [1] is a bit better. >>> >>> [1] >>> http://phys.org/news/2015-04-ibm-peers-numenta-machine-intelligence.html >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Fergal Byrne < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> +1 to that idea. >>>> >>>> Someone started this thread [1] on Reddit a few hours ago. For once, >>>> the conversation is sane and informed. >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> http://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/321qtg/what_is_ibm_looking_for_in_numenta/ >>>> >>>> Eric and I have already contributed comments, feel free to join in. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Fergal Byrne >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 5:38 AM, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'll bring it up, thanks for the suggestion. >>>>> >>>>> --------- >>>>> Matt Taylor >>>>> OS Community Flag-Bearer >>>>> Numenta >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:56 PM, cogmission (David Ray) >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > @rhyolight - David's suggestion sounds good to me? What do you think? >>>>> > >>>>> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:11 PM, David Wood <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Reaching out to both journalists with an offer of a fresh interview >>>>> might >>>>> >> be a good idea. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Regards, >>>>> >> Dave >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> http://about.me/david_wood >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Apr 9, 2015, at 12:49, Robert Smith <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> David, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >Very interesting. It still amazes me that articles can be written >>>>> without >>>>> >> > much >>>>> >> >knowledge of the subject matter (re: statements that assess overall >>>>> >> > status >>>>> >> >and quality comparisons). >>>>> >> >>>>> >> As the second article that popped up ( >>>>> >> http://www.engadget.com/2015/04/09/ibm-numenta-ai-software/ ) >>>>> seems to just >>>>> >> be a rehash of the first with no independent research, I guess you >>>>> will have >>>>> >> to be ready to be amazed again. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On 8 April 2015 at 17:24, David Ray <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Thanks Robert! >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Very interesting. It still amazes me that articles can be written >>>>> without >>>>> >>> much knowledge of the subject matter (re: statements that assess >>>>> overall >>>>> >>> status and quality comparisons). >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> For instance: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Numenta’s algorithms also operate in a network, but they are aimed >>>>> at >>>>> >>> faithfully recreating the behavior of repeating circuits of >>>>> roughly 100 >>>>> >>> neurons found in the outer layer of the brain called the neocortex. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> The number "100" was clearly pulled out of thin air. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> And: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Marcus says Hawkins’s algorithms mimic only some of the known >>>>> mechanisms >>>>> >>> at work in the brain, and that the majority of its function still >>>>> remains a >>>>> >>> mystery. Demonstrations of Numenta’s technology have so far been >>>>> limited, he >>>>> >>> adds. “I haven’t seen them try to handle natural language >>>>> understanding or >>>>> >>> even produce state-of-the-art results in image recognition,” he >>>>> says. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Obviously this is also true of industry pundits also. Nobody >>>>> mentions the >>>>> >>> vast superiority of pre-CLA work on visual hierarchy - (a demo >>>>> recently >>>>> >>> shown by Matt Taylor of earlier technology where the tech could >>>>> distinguish >>>>> >>> many distinctions with high granularity such as different objects >>>>> moving >>>>> >>> into and out of visual fields; moving behind other objects; >>>>> distinguishing >>>>> >>> partially occluded objects etc.) >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Well, at least in this case, any news is good news! :-) >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> On Apr 8, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Robert Smith < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> I've had a google alert set for "numenta" for a few weeks now. >>>>> Today it >>>>> >>> spoke to me for the first time. It said: >>>>> >>> >>>>> http://www.technologyreview.com/news/536326/ibm-tests-mobile-computing-pioneers-controversial-brain-algorithms/ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > With kind regards, >>>>> > >>>>> > David Ray >>>>> > Java Solutions Architect >>>>> > >>>>> > cortical.io >>>>> > Sponsor of: HTM.java >>>>> > >>>>> > [email protected] >>>>> > http://cortical.io >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Fergal Byrne, Brenter IT >>>> >>>> http://inbits.com - Better Living through Thoughtful Technology >>>> http://ie.linkedin.com/in/fergbyrne/ - https://github.com/fergalbyrne >>>> >>>> Founder of Clortex: HTM in Clojure - >>>> https://github.com/nupic-community/clortex >>>> >>>> Author, Real Machine Intelligence with Clortex and NuPIC >>>> Read for free or buy the book at https://leanpub.com/realsmartmachines >>>> >>>> Speaking on Clortex and HTM/CLA at euroClojure Krakow, June 2014: >>>> http://euroclojure.com/2014/ >>>> and at LambdaJam Chicago, July 2014: http://www.lambdajam.com >>>> >>>> e:[email protected] t:+353 83 4214179 >>>> Join the quest for Machine Intelligence at http://numenta.org >>>> Formerly of Adnet [email protected] http://www.adnet.ie >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Fergal Byrne, Brenter IT >>> >>> http://inbits.com - Better Living through Thoughtful Technology >>> http://ie.linkedin.com/in/fergbyrne/ - https://github.com/fergalbyrne >>> >>> Founder of Clortex: HTM in Clojure - >>> https://github.com/nupic-community/clortex >>> >>> Author, Real Machine Intelligence with Clortex and NuPIC >>> Read for free or buy the book at https://leanpub.com/realsmartmachines >>> >>> Speaking on Clortex and HTM/CLA at euroClojure Krakow, June 2014: >>> http://euroclojure.com/2014/ >>> and at LambdaJam Chicago, July 2014: http://www.lambdajam.com >>> >>> e:[email protected] t:+353 83 4214179 >>> Join the quest for Machine Intelligence at http://numenta.org >>> Formerly of Adnet [email protected] http://www.adnet.ie >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *With kind regards,* >> >> David Ray >> Java Solutions Architect >> >> *cortical.io <http://cortical.io/>* >> Sponsor of: HTM.java <https://github.com/numenta/htm.java> >> >> [email protected] >> http://cortical.io >> > > > > -- > *With kind regards,* > > David Ray > Java Solutions Architect > > *cortical.io <http://cortical.io/>* > Sponsor of: HTM.java <https://github.com/numenta/htm.java> > > [email protected] > http://cortical.io > -- *With kind regards,* David Ray Java Solutions Architect *cortical.io <http://cortical.io/>* Sponsor of: HTM.java <https://github.com/numenta/htm.java> [email protected] http://cortical.io
