Wow, he changed the article! Chi Ching! On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> Very nice! > --------- > Matt Taylor > OS Community Flag-Bearer > Numenta > > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 1:32 PM, cogmission (David Ray) > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Apparently the author (Alex) responded very positively to my > > posting/critique. See his answer here: > > > http://www.science20.com/physics_foundations/blog/numenta_the_bruce_lee_of_ai_and_deep_learning-154801#comment-185209 > > > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 1:40 PM, cogmission (David Ray) > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Here's my response to another article: > >> > http://www.science20.com/physics_foundations/blog/numenta_the_bruce_lee_of_ai_and_deep_learning-154801#comment-185209 > >> > >> @Alex, > >> > >> Numenta doesn't do deep learning in any sense of the word. The two > >> approaches are distinct. Numenta's algorithms are true recreations of > >> neurological processes and are (hate to say it so explicitly) superior > to > >> processes utilizing simple network nodes. Deep learning has taken us a > >> certain distance and is very useful up to a point - I don't mean to > really > >> "rank" any particular approach, however, Numenta's algorithms are a > quantum > >> leap ahead of what's currently happening with network nodes. Mind you, > >> Numenta is just getting started so its like comparing analog watches > made > >> from cogs and wheels to unfinished circuitry comprising a watch circuit > >> board made from discrete digital components. Right now the "cogs and > wheels" > >> are getting superior results, but when the digital circuit board is > finished > >> - the shift in result quality will not even be comparable in scale! > >> Metaphorically, it won't matter how good the cogs and wheels are, and > within > >> how many milliseconds the accuracy can be controlled - when Numenta is > >> finished, its scale will be in the nano-seconds and unreachable by the > "cogs > >> and wheels" technology. > >> > >> Read more: > >> > http://www.science20.com/physics_foundations/blog/numenta_the_bruce_lee_of_ai_and_deep_learning-154801#ixzz3XJIPHAn5 > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 11:08 AM, cogmission (David Ray) > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Here's another article featuring Subutai! Nicely done! > >>> > http://phys.org/news/2015-04-ibm-peers-numenta-machine-intelligence.html > >>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 6:07 AM, cogmission (David Ray) > >>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hey Fergal! > >>>> > >>>> Where have you been? Thanks for the links, and specifically pointing > to > >>>> Jeff's talk at Sandia. > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 4:15 AM, Fergal Byrne > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> This (partially rehashed) piece [1] is a bit better. > >>>>> > >>>>> [1] > >>>>> > http://phys.org/news/2015-04-ibm-peers-numenta-machine-intelligence.html > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Fergal Byrne > >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> +1 to that idea. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Someone started this thread [1] on Reddit a few hours ago. For once, > >>>>>> the conversation is sane and informed. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [1] > >>>>>> > http://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/321qtg/what_is_ibm_looking_for_in_numenta/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Eric and I have already contributed comments, feel free to join in. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Fergal Byrne > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 5:38 AM, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'll bring it up, thanks for the suggestion. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --------- > >>>>>>> Matt Taylor > >>>>>>> OS Community Flag-Bearer > >>>>>>> Numenta > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:56 PM, cogmission (David Ray) > >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> > @rhyolight - David's suggestion sounds good to me? What do you > >>>>>>> > think? > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:11 PM, David Wood < > [email protected]> > >>>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> Reaching out to both journalists with an offer of a fresh > >>>>>>> >> interview might > >>>>>>> >> be a good idea. > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> Regards, > >>>>>>> >> Dave > >>>>>>> >> -- > >>>>>>> >> http://about.me/david_wood > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> On Apr 9, 2015, at 12:49, Robert Smith < > [email protected]> > >>>>>>> >> wrote: > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> David, > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >Very interesting. It still amazes me that articles can be > written > >>>>>>> >> > without > >>>>>>> >> > much > >>>>>>> >> >knowledge of the subject matter (re: statements that assess > >>>>>>> >> > overall > >>>>>>> >> > status > >>>>>>> >> >and quality comparisons). > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> As the second article that popped up ( > >>>>>>> >> http://www.engadget.com/2015/04/09/ibm-numenta-ai-software/ ) > >>>>>>> >> seems to just > >>>>>>> >> be a rehash of the first with no independent research, I guess > you > >>>>>>> >> will have > >>>>>>> >> to be ready to be amazed again. > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> On 8 April 2015 at 17:24, David Ray <[email protected] > > > >>>>>>> >> wrote: > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> Thanks Robert! > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> Very interesting. It still amazes me that articles can be > written > >>>>>>> >>> without > >>>>>>> >>> much knowledge of the subject matter (re: statements that > assess > >>>>>>> >>> overall > >>>>>>> >>> status and quality comparisons). > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> For instance: > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> Numenta’s algorithms also operate in a network, but they are > >>>>>>> >>> aimed at > >>>>>>> >>> faithfully recreating the behavior of repeating circuits of > >>>>>>> >>> roughly 100 > >>>>>>> >>> neurons found in the outer layer of the brain called the > >>>>>>> >>> neocortex. > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> The number "100" was clearly pulled out of thin air. > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> And: > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> Marcus says Hawkins’s algorithms mimic only some of the known > >>>>>>> >>> mechanisms > >>>>>>> >>> at work in the brain, and that the majority of its function > still > >>>>>>> >>> remains a > >>>>>>> >>> mystery. Demonstrations of Numenta’s technology have so far > been > >>>>>>> >>> limited, he > >>>>>>> >>> adds. “I haven’t seen them try to handle natural language > >>>>>>> >>> understanding or > >>>>>>> >>> even produce state-of-the-art results in image recognition,” he > >>>>>>> >>> says. > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> Obviously this is also true of industry pundits also. Nobody > >>>>>>> >>> mentions the > >>>>>>> >>> vast superiority of pre-CLA work on visual hierarchy - (a demo > >>>>>>> >>> recently > >>>>>>> >>> shown by Matt Taylor of earlier technology where the tech could > >>>>>>> >>> distinguish > >>>>>>> >>> many distinctions with high granularity such as different > objects > >>>>>>> >>> moving > >>>>>>> >>> into and out of visual fields; moving behind other objects; > >>>>>>> >>> distinguishing > >>>>>>> >>> partially occluded objects etc.) > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> Well, at least in this case, any news is good news! :-) > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> On Apr 8, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Robert Smith > >>>>>>> >>> <[email protected]> > >>>>>>> >>> wrote: > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> I've had a google alert set for "numenta" for a few weeks now. > >>>>>>> >>> Today it > >>>>>>> >>> spoke to me for the first time. It said: > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > http://www.technologyreview.com/news/536326/ibm-tests-mobile-computing-pioneers-controversial-brain-algorithms/ > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > -- > >>>>>>> > With kind regards, > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > David Ray > >>>>>>> > Java Solutions Architect > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > cortical.io > >>>>>>> > Sponsor of: HTM.java > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > [email protected] > >>>>>>> > http://cortical.io > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Fergal Byrne, Brenter IT > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://inbits.com - Better Living through Thoughtful Technology > >>>>>> http://ie.linkedin.com/in/fergbyrne/ - > https://github.com/fergalbyrne > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Founder of Clortex: HTM in Clojure - > >>>>>> https://github.com/nupic-community/clortex > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Author, Real Machine Intelligence with Clortex and NuPIC > >>>>>> Read for free or buy the book at > https://leanpub.com/realsmartmachines > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Speaking on Clortex and HTM/CLA at euroClojure Krakow, June 2014: > >>>>>> http://euroclojure.com/2014/ > >>>>>> and at LambdaJam Chicago, July 2014: http://www.lambdajam.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>> e:[email protected] t:+353 83 4214179 > >>>>>> Join the quest for Machine Intelligence at http://numenta.org > >>>>>> Formerly of Adnet [email protected] http://www.adnet.ie > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> > >>>>> Fergal Byrne, Brenter IT > >>>>> > >>>>> http://inbits.com - Better Living through Thoughtful Technology > >>>>> http://ie.linkedin.com/in/fergbyrne/ - > https://github.com/fergalbyrne > >>>>> > >>>>> Founder of Clortex: HTM in Clojure - > >>>>> https://github.com/nupic-community/clortex > >>>>> > >>>>> Author, Real Machine Intelligence with Clortex and NuPIC > >>>>> Read for free or buy the book at > https://leanpub.com/realsmartmachines > >>>>> > >>>>> Speaking on Clortex and HTM/CLA at euroClojure Krakow, June 2014: > >>>>> http://euroclojure.com/2014/ > >>>>> and at LambdaJam Chicago, July 2014: http://www.lambdajam.com > >>>>> > >>>>> e:[email protected] t:+353 83 4214179 > >>>>> Join the quest for Machine Intelligence at http://numenta.org > >>>>> Formerly of Adnet [email protected] http://www.adnet.ie > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> With kind regards, > >>>> > >>>> David Ray > >>>> Java Solutions Architect > >>>> > >>>> cortical.io > >>>> Sponsor of: HTM.java > >>>> > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://cortical.io > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> With kind regards, > >>> > >>> David Ray > >>> Java Solutions Architect > >>> > >>> cortical.io > >>> Sponsor of: HTM.java > >>> > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://cortical.io > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> With kind regards, > >> > >> David Ray > >> Java Solutions Architect > >> > >> cortical.io > >> Sponsor of: HTM.java > >> > >> [email protected] > >> http://cortical.io > > > > > > > > > > -- > > With kind regards, > > > > David Ray > > Java Solutions Architect > > > > cortical.io > > Sponsor of: HTM.java > > > > [email protected] > > http://cortical.io > > -- *With kind regards,* David Ray Java Solutions Architect *cortical.io <http://cortical.io/>* Sponsor of: HTM.java <https://github.com/numenta/htm.java> [email protected] http://cortical.io
