Very nice! --------- Matt Taylor OS Community Flag-Bearer Numenta
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 1:32 PM, cogmission (David Ray) <[email protected]> wrote: > Apparently the author (Alex) responded very positively to my > posting/critique. See his answer here: > http://www.science20.com/physics_foundations/blog/numenta_the_bruce_lee_of_ai_and_deep_learning-154801#comment-185209 > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 1:40 PM, cogmission (David Ray) > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Here's my response to another article: >> http://www.science20.com/physics_foundations/blog/numenta_the_bruce_lee_of_ai_and_deep_learning-154801#comment-185209 >> >> @Alex, >> >> Numenta doesn't do deep learning in any sense of the word. The two >> approaches are distinct. Numenta's algorithms are true recreations of >> neurological processes and are (hate to say it so explicitly) superior to >> processes utilizing simple network nodes. Deep learning has taken us a >> certain distance and is very useful up to a point - I don't mean to really >> "rank" any particular approach, however, Numenta's algorithms are a quantum >> leap ahead of what's currently happening with network nodes. Mind you, >> Numenta is just getting started so its like comparing analog watches made >> from cogs and wheels to unfinished circuitry comprising a watch circuit >> board made from discrete digital components. Right now the "cogs and wheels" >> are getting superior results, but when the digital circuit board is finished >> - the shift in result quality will not even be comparable in scale! >> Metaphorically, it won't matter how good the cogs and wheels are, and within >> how many milliseconds the accuracy can be controlled - when Numenta is >> finished, its scale will be in the nano-seconds and unreachable by the "cogs >> and wheels" technology. >> >> Read more: >> http://www.science20.com/physics_foundations/blog/numenta_the_bruce_lee_of_ai_and_deep_learning-154801#ixzz3XJIPHAn5 >> >> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 11:08 AM, cogmission (David Ray) >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Here's another article featuring Subutai! Nicely done! >>> http://phys.org/news/2015-04-ibm-peers-numenta-machine-intelligence.html >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 6:07 AM, cogmission (David Ray) >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey Fergal! >>>> >>>> Where have you been? Thanks for the links, and specifically pointing to >>>> Jeff's talk at Sandia. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 4:15 AM, Fergal Byrne >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This (partially rehashed) piece [1] is a bit better. >>>>> >>>>> [1] >>>>> http://phys.org/news/2015-04-ibm-peers-numenta-machine-intelligence.html >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Fergal Byrne >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 to that idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> Someone started this thread [1] on Reddit a few hours ago. For once, >>>>>> the conversation is sane and informed. >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] >>>>>> http://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/321qtg/what_is_ibm_looking_for_in_numenta/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric and I have already contributed comments, feel free to join in. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Fergal Byrne >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 5:38 AM, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll bring it up, thanks for the suggestion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>> Matt Taylor >>>>>>> OS Community Flag-Bearer >>>>>>> Numenta >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:56 PM, cogmission (David Ray) >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> > @rhyolight - David's suggestion sounds good to me? What do you >>>>>>> > think? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:11 PM, David Wood <[email protected]> >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Reaching out to both journalists with an offer of a fresh >>>>>>> >> interview might >>>>>>> >> be a good idea. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Regards, >>>>>>> >> Dave >>>>>>> >> -- >>>>>>> >> http://about.me/david_wood >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On Apr 9, 2015, at 12:49, Robert Smith <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> David, >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >Very interesting. It still amazes me that articles can be written >>>>>>> >> > without >>>>>>> >> > much >>>>>>> >> >knowledge of the subject matter (re: statements that assess >>>>>>> >> > overall >>>>>>> >> > status >>>>>>> >> >and quality comparisons). >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> As the second article that popped up ( >>>>>>> >> http://www.engadget.com/2015/04/09/ibm-numenta-ai-software/ ) >>>>>>> >> seems to just >>>>>>> >> be a rehash of the first with no independent research, I guess you >>>>>>> >> will have >>>>>>> >> to be ready to be amazed again. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On 8 April 2015 at 17:24, David Ray <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Thanks Robert! >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Very interesting. It still amazes me that articles can be written >>>>>>> >>> without >>>>>>> >>> much knowledge of the subject matter (re: statements that assess >>>>>>> >>> overall >>>>>>> >>> status and quality comparisons). >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> For instance: >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Numenta’s algorithms also operate in a network, but they are >>>>>>> >>> aimed at >>>>>>> >>> faithfully recreating the behavior of repeating circuits of >>>>>>> >>> roughly 100 >>>>>>> >>> neurons found in the outer layer of the brain called the >>>>>>> >>> neocortex. >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> The number "100" was clearly pulled out of thin air. >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> And: >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Marcus says Hawkins’s algorithms mimic only some of the known >>>>>>> >>> mechanisms >>>>>>> >>> at work in the brain, and that the majority of its function still >>>>>>> >>> remains a >>>>>>> >>> mystery. Demonstrations of Numenta’s technology have so far been >>>>>>> >>> limited, he >>>>>>> >>> adds. “I haven’t seen them try to handle natural language >>>>>>> >>> understanding or >>>>>>> >>> even produce state-of-the-art results in image recognition,” he >>>>>>> >>> says. >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Obviously this is also true of industry pundits also. Nobody >>>>>>> >>> mentions the >>>>>>> >>> vast superiority of pre-CLA work on visual hierarchy - (a demo >>>>>>> >>> recently >>>>>>> >>> shown by Matt Taylor of earlier technology where the tech could >>>>>>> >>> distinguish >>>>>>> >>> many distinctions with high granularity such as different objects >>>>>>> >>> moving >>>>>>> >>> into and out of visual fields; moving behind other objects; >>>>>>> >>> distinguishing >>>>>>> >>> partially occluded objects etc.) >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Well, at least in this case, any news is good news! :-) >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> On Apr 8, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Robert Smith >>>>>>> >>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> I've had a google alert set for "numenta" for a few weeks now. >>>>>>> >>> Today it >>>>>>> >>> spoke to me for the first time. It said: >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> http://www.technologyreview.com/news/536326/ibm-tests-mobile-computing-pioneers-controversial-brain-algorithms/ >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>> > With kind regards, >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > David Ray >>>>>>> > Java Solutions Architect >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > cortical.io >>>>>>> > Sponsor of: HTM.java >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > [email protected] >>>>>>> > http://cortical.io >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Fergal Byrne, Brenter IT >>>>>> >>>>>> http://inbits.com - Better Living through Thoughtful Technology >>>>>> http://ie.linkedin.com/in/fergbyrne/ - https://github.com/fergalbyrne >>>>>> >>>>>> Founder of Clortex: HTM in Clojure - >>>>>> https://github.com/nupic-community/clortex >>>>>> >>>>>> Author, Real Machine Intelligence with Clortex and NuPIC >>>>>> Read for free or buy the book at https://leanpub.com/realsmartmachines >>>>>> >>>>>> Speaking on Clortex and HTM/CLA at euroClojure Krakow, June 2014: >>>>>> http://euroclojure.com/2014/ >>>>>> and at LambdaJam Chicago, July 2014: http://www.lambdajam.com >>>>>> >>>>>> e:[email protected] t:+353 83 4214179 >>>>>> Join the quest for Machine Intelligence at http://numenta.org >>>>>> Formerly of Adnet [email protected] http://www.adnet.ie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Fergal Byrne, Brenter IT >>>>> >>>>> http://inbits.com - Better Living through Thoughtful Technology >>>>> http://ie.linkedin.com/in/fergbyrne/ - https://github.com/fergalbyrne >>>>> >>>>> Founder of Clortex: HTM in Clojure - >>>>> https://github.com/nupic-community/clortex >>>>> >>>>> Author, Real Machine Intelligence with Clortex and NuPIC >>>>> Read for free or buy the book at https://leanpub.com/realsmartmachines >>>>> >>>>> Speaking on Clortex and HTM/CLA at euroClojure Krakow, June 2014: >>>>> http://euroclojure.com/2014/ >>>>> and at LambdaJam Chicago, July 2014: http://www.lambdajam.com >>>>> >>>>> e:[email protected] t:+353 83 4214179 >>>>> Join the quest for Machine Intelligence at http://numenta.org >>>>> Formerly of Adnet [email protected] http://www.adnet.ie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With kind regards, >>>> >>>> David Ray >>>> Java Solutions Architect >>>> >>>> cortical.io >>>> Sponsor of: HTM.java >>>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://cortical.io >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With kind regards, >>> >>> David Ray >>> Java Solutions Architect >>> >>> cortical.io >>> Sponsor of: HTM.java >>> >>> [email protected] >>> http://cortical.io >> >> >> >> >> -- >> With kind regards, >> >> David Ray >> Java Solutions Architect >> >> cortical.io >> Sponsor of: HTM.java >> >> [email protected] >> http://cortical.io > > > > > -- > With kind regards, > > David Ray > Java Solutions Architect > > cortical.io > Sponsor of: HTM.java > > [email protected] > http://cortical.io
