No I was just talking about the idea of a special forum session, to beat out some precise computational experiments from the theory. But I now think we shouldn't do that. Just leave it ad-hoc.
It's often the incidental conversations that are most valuable, so I was suggesting we don't fill up all the time with formal talks. I realise this leaves out remote people but there it is. Maybe we could hire some telepresence robots. On 28 October 2015 at 20:20, Richard Crowder <[email protected]> wrote: > I gained the impression that it was split into two schedules for the > community side. Having longer presentations with questions and answers > after or throughout. Then shorter time-limited 'lightning' talks with > time limited Q&A after (potentially before the longer talks). To help > presenters enter videos and schedule a time for them to attend and answer > questions, time zone differences etc. > I'm guessing your not referring to the lightning talk side with your > second thought? > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Felix Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On second thought, I don't think we need a scheduled, structured session. >> It would be better to have ad-hoc discussions. Just don't fill up all the >> time with talks. >> >> >> On Wednesday, 28 October 2015, Felix Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 27 October 2015 at 12:31, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I nominate David Ray to moderate. (If he wants to, of course). >>>> >>>> Seconded! >>> >>> Any ideas on how to structure this kind of session? I'm sure there will >>> be plenty of ideas raised by Sergey, Fergal and others. It might be obvious >>> what to focus on. Or not. >>> >>> I find that putting ideas into code exposes a lot of unspecified >>> details, which may be very important in their effects. So personally I >>> would like us to propose some concrete mechanisms, avoiding hand waving as >>> much as possible (sure, we need hand waving sometimes). It would be good to >>> get those people with more neuroscience knowledge involved at that detailed >>> level, >>> I think. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Felix Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sergey, I would love to hear that talk. Distilled neuroscience is gold. >>>> >>>> Perhaps, along with Fergal's talk, it could lead into a >>>> forum/discussion on potential computational experiments inspired by >>>> neuroscience? An explicit bridge-building exercise between theory and >>>> practice. We would need a skilled moderator. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 27 October 2015 at 07:43, Marcus Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> +1, I'd be interested in your talk. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:40 PM Sergey Alexashenko < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey David, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, I must have not been clear. I do not intend to present >>>>>> theories from neuroscience, just evidence. For example, we now know that >>>>>> inhibitory neurons can block off information input to an excitatory >>>>>> neuron's cell body from one specific dendrite. That seems like it could >>>>>> be >>>>>> important, but HTM has no way to account for that. There are a few other >>>>>> similar mechanics. >>>>>> >>>>>> Obviously, I have theories about these behaviors (and so do other >>>>>> people), but I do not want to present them for similar reasons to those >>>>>> in >>>>>> your email. >>>>>> >>>>>> What are your thoughts on that approach? >>>>>> >>>>>> Sergey >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:18 PM, David Ray < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sergey, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you put it in context - show how the contrary opinions actually >>>>>>> demonstrate computational viability - and not just someone's opinions? >>>>>>> Show >>>>>>> how the challenging theories have a computational model which >>>>>>> illustrates a >>>>>>> more efficient likelihood of prediction accuracy? Because If all the >>>>>>> challenging theories do is propose a theory, then how is it a >>>>>>> contribution >>>>>>> considering HTM theory yields actual results. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So personally I'm not interested unless the theory can demonstrate >>>>>>> an increase in cognitive resolution. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But that's just me... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Sergey Alexashenko < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you think there would be any interest in a short talk on some >>>>>>> neuroscience challenges to HTM theory? I am specifically thinking about >>>>>>> dendritic computation, role of inhibitory neurons and non-Hebbian >>>>>>> plasticity. I know this sounds dense, but I am reasonably sure I can >>>>>>> make >>>>>>> it sound accessible to people who have only On Intelligence and the >>>>>>> white >>>>>>> paper as their background. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sergey >>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2015 3:22 PM, "Fergal Byrne" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, either Matt will get a recording, or the speaker will, or >>>>>>>> someone will come and use their own camera/mike. Or best, all of these. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Marcus Lewis <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Will these talks be recorded? I vote for "yes". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Fergal, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please edit this wiki document: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/numenta/nupic/wiki/HTM-Challenge-Community-Meetup-Planning >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>>>>> Matt Taylor >>>>>>>>>> OS Community Flag-Bearer >>>>>>>>>> Numenta >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Fergal Byrne >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > Thanks Matt for organising the Hangout this morning/afternoon. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > The Community Meetup on Friday, November 13th [1] is hosted by >>>>>>>>>> Numenta but >>>>>>>>>> > is our day. Please have your say in designing and shaping how >>>>>>>>>> the day works. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > The current proposal is a mixture of longish talks (40-50mins >>>>>>>>>> plus Q&A) and >>>>>>>>>> > lightning talks (5-15mins plus Q&A). >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > We have so far pencilled in two long-form talks: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > 1. Donna Dubinsky (Numenta co-founder and CEO) on the "Business >>>>>>>>>> of HTM" >>>>>>>>>> > 2. Me on "Symphony from Synapses: Neocortex as a Universal >>>>>>>>>> > Dynamical Systems Modeller" >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > We have from 3pm until 9ish, so there's plenty of room for >>>>>>>>>> talks of both >>>>>>>>>> > types. I'd personally enjoy a good mixture of a few more >>>>>>>>>> long-form and a >>>>>>>>>> > good number of swift talks. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Matt is going to set up a Wiki page for this (he'll post a link >>>>>>>>>> here), so >>>>>>>>>> > please jump in with your talk proposals - specify approx length >>>>>>>>>> of the talk >>>>>>>>>> > so we can figure out how to schedule them. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > For those who cannot attend in person, we'll hopefully organise >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> > webcast/hangout way to deliver your contribution. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > This is all subject to objections/amendments from you guys, >>>>>>>>>> nothing is set >>>>>>>>>> > in stone. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Regards, >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Fergal Byrne >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > [1] http://www.meetup.com/numenta/events/224711563/ >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Fergal Byrne, Brenter IT @fergbyrne >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > http://inbits.com - Better Living through Thoughtful Technology >>>>>>>>>> > http://ie.linkedin.com/in/fergbyrne/ - >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/fergalbyrne >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Founder of Clortex: HTM in Clojure - >>>>>>>>>> > https://github.com/nupic-community/clortex >>>>>>>>>> > Co-creator @OccupyStartups Time-Bombed Open License >>>>>>>>>> http://occupystartups.me >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Author, Real Machine Intelligence with Clortex and NuPIC >>>>>>>>>> > Read for free or buy the book at >>>>>>>>>> https://leanpub.com/realsmartmachines >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > e:[email protected] t:+353 83 4214179 >>>>>>>>>> > Join the quest for Machine Intelligence at http://numenta.org >>>>>>>>>> > Formerly of Adnet [email protected] http://www.adnet.ie >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Fergal Byrne, Brenter IT @fergbyrne >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://inbits.com - Better Living through Thoughtful Technology >>>>>>>> http://ie.linkedin.com/in/fergbyrne/ - >>>>>>>> https://github.com/fergalbyrne >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Founder of Clortex: HTM in Clojure - >>>>>>>> https://github.com/nupic-community/clortex >>>>>>>> Co-creator @OccupyStartups Time-Bombed Open License >>>>>>>> http://occupystartups.me >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Author, Real Machine Intelligence with Clortex and NuPIC >>>>>>>> Read for free or buy the book at >>>>>>>> https://leanpub.com/realsmartmachines >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> e:[email protected] t:+353 83 4214179 >>>>>>>> Join the quest for Machine Intelligence at http://numenta.org >>>>>>>> Formerly of Adnet [email protected] http://www.adnet.ie >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Felix Andrews / 安福立 >>>> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Felix Andrews / 安福立 >>> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Felix Andrews / 安福立 >>> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/ >>> >> >> >> -- >> Felix Andrews / 安福立 >> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/ >> > > -- Felix Andrews / 安福立 http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/
