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On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Chandan Maruthi
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I can do a short talk about "things to do to put NUPIC in production . Any
> thoughts?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> There will be whiteboards.... :)
>> ---------
>> Matt Taylor
>> OS Community Flag-Bearer
>> Numenta
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Richard Crowder <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Agree. The recent informal meetup was great. And looking likely to be a
>> > format used more. As well as more specific meets, such as the NuPIC
>> > Development Progress Reviews and Office Hours.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Felix Andrews <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> No I was just talking about the idea of a special forum session, to
>> >> beat
>> >> out some precise computational experiments from the theory. But I now
>> >> think
>> >> we shouldn't do that. Just leave it ad-hoc.
>> >>
>> >> It's often the incidental conversations that are most valuable, so I
>> >> was
>> >> suggesting we don't fill up all the time with formal talks. I realise
>> >> this
>> >> leaves out remote people but there it is. Maybe we could hire some
>> >> telepresence robots.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 28 October 2015 at 20:20, Richard Crowder <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I gained the impression that it was split into two schedules for the
>> >>> community side. Having longer presentations with questions and answers
>> >>> after
>> >>> or throughout. Then shorter time-limited 'lightning' talks with time
>> >>> limited
>> >>> Q&A after (potentially before the longer talks). To help presenters
>> >>> enter
>> >>> videos and schedule a time for them to attend and answer questions,
>> >>> time
>> >>> zone differences etc.
>> >>> I'm guessing your not referring to the lightning talk side with your
>> >>> second thought?
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Felix Andrews <[email protected]>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On second thought, I don't think we need a scheduled, structured
>> >>>> session. It would be better to have ad-hoc discussions. Just don't
>> >>>> fill up
>> >>>> all the time with talks.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wednesday, 28 October 2015, Felix Andrews <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 27 October 2015 at 12:31, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I nominate David Ray to moderate. (If he wants to, of course).
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> Seconded!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Any ideas on how to structure this kind of session? I'm sure there
>> >>>>> will
>> >>>>> be plenty of ideas raised by Sergey, Fergal and others. It might be
>> >>>>> obvious
>> >>>>> what to focus on. Or not.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I find that putting ideas into code exposes a lot of unspecified
>> >>>>> details, which may be very important in their effects. So personally
>> >>>>> I would
>> >>>>> like us to propose some concrete mechanisms, avoiding hand waving as
>> >>>>> much as
>> >>>>> possible (sure, we need hand waving sometimes). It would be good to
>> >>>>> get
>> >>>>> those people with more neuroscience knowledge involved at that
>> >>>>> detailed
>> >>>>> level, I think.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Felix Andrews <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sergey, I would love to hear that talk. Distilled neuroscience is
>> >>>>>> gold.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Perhaps, along with Fergal's talk, it could lead into a
>> >>>>>> forum/discussion on potential computational experiments inspired by
>> >>>>>> neuroscience? An explicit bridge-building exercise between theory
>> >>>>>> and
>> >>>>>> practice. We would need a skilled moderator.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 27 October 2015 at 07:43, Marcus Lewis <[email protected]>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> +1, I'd be interested in your talk.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:40 PM Sergey Alexashenko
>> >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Hey David,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Sorry, I must have not been clear. I do not intend to present
>> >>>>>>>> theories from neuroscience, just evidence. For example, we now
>> >>>>>>>> know that
>> >>>>>>>> inhibitory neurons can block off information input to an
>> >>>>>>>> excitatory neuron's
>> >>>>>>>> cell body from one specific dendrite. That seems like it could be
>> >>>>>>>> important,
>> >>>>>>>> but HTM has no way to account for that. There are a few other
>> >>>>>>>> similar
>> >>>>>>>> mechanics.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Obviously, I have theories about these behaviors (and so do other
>> >>>>>>>> people), but I do not want to present them for similar reasons to
>> >>>>>>>> those in
>> >>>>>>>> your email.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> What are your thoughts on that approach?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Sergey
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:18 PM, David Ray
>> >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Sergey,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Can you put it in context - show how the contrary opinions
>> >>>>>>>>> actually
>> >>>>>>>>> demonstrate computational viability - and not just someone's
>> >>>>>>>>> opinions? Show
>> >>>>>>>>> how the challenging theories have a computational model which
>> >>>>>>>>> illustrates a
>> >>>>>>>>> more efficient likelihood of prediction accuracy? Because If all
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>> challenging theories do is propose a theory, then how is it a
>> >>>>>>>>> contribution
>> >>>>>>>>> considering HTM theory yields actual results.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> So personally I'm not interested unless the theory can
>> >>>>>>>>> demonstrate
>> >>>>>>>>> an increase in cognitive resolution.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> But that's just me...
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Sergey Alexashenko
>> >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Hey everyone,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Do you think there would be any interest in a short talk on some
>> >>>>>>>>> neuroscience challenges to HTM theory? I am specifically
>> >>>>>>>>> thinking about
>> >>>>>>>>> dendritic computation, role of inhibitory neurons and
>> >>>>>>>>> non-Hebbian
>> >>>>>>>>> plasticity. I know this sounds dense, but I am reasonably sure I
>> >>>>>>>>> can make it
>> >>>>>>>>> sound accessible to people who have only On Intelligence and the
>> >>>>>>>>> white paper
>> >>>>>>>>> as their background.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Sergey
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2015 3:22 PM, "Fergal Byrne"
>> >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, either Matt will get a recording, or the speaker will, or
>> >>>>>>>>>> someone will come and use their own camera/mike. Or best, all
>> >>>>>>>>>> of these.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Marcus Lewis
>> >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Will these talks be recorded? I vote for "yes".
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Matthew Taylor
>> >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Fergal,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please edit this wiki document:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/numenta/nupic/wiki/HTM-Challenge-Community-Meetup-Planning
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---------
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Taylor
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> OS Community Flag-Bearer
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Numenta
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Fergal Byrne
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks Matt for organising the Hangout this
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > morning/afternoon.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > The Community Meetup on Friday, November 13th [1] is hosted
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > by
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > Numenta but
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > is our day. Please have your say in designing and shaping
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > how
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > the day works.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > The current proposal is a mixture of longish talks
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > (40-50mins
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > plus Q&A) and
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > lightning talks (5-15mins plus Q&A).
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > We have so far pencilled in two long-form talks:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > 1. Donna Dubinsky (Numenta co-founder and CEO) on the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > "Business of HTM"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > 2. Me on "Symphony from Synapses: Neocortex as a Universal
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > Dynamical Systems Modeller"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > We have from 3pm until 9ish, so there's plenty of room for
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > talks of both
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > types. I'd personally enjoy a good mixture of a few more
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > long-form and a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > good number of swift talks.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > Matt is going to set up a Wiki page for this (he'll post a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > link here), so
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > please jump in with your talk proposals - specify approx
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > length of the talk
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > so we can figure out how to schedule them.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > For those who cannot attend in person, we'll hopefully
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > organise a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > webcast/hangout way to deliver your contribution.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > This is all subject to objections/amendments from you guys,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > nothing is set
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > in stone.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > Regards,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > Fergal Byrne
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1] http://www.meetup.com/numenta/events/224711563/
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > --
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > Fergal Byrne, Brenter IT @fergbyrne
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > http://inbits.com - Better Living through Thoughtful
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > Technology
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > http://ie.linkedin.com/in/fergbyrne/ -
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > https://github.com/fergalbyrne
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > Founder of Clortex: HTM in Clojure -
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > https://github.com/nupic-community/clortex
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > Co-creator @OccupyStartups Time-Bombed Open License
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > http://occupystartups.me
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > Author, Real Machine Intelligence with Clortex and NuPIC
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > Read for free or buy the book at
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > https://leanpub.com/realsmartmachines
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > e:[email protected] t:+353 83 4214179
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > Join the quest for Machine Intelligence at
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > http://numenta.org
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > Formerly of Adnet [email protected] http://www.adnet.ie
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Fergal Byrne, Brenter IT @fergbyrne
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> http://inbits.com - Better Living through Thoughtful Technology
>> >>>>>>>>>> http://ie.linkedin.com/in/fergbyrne/ -
>> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/fergalbyrne
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Founder of Clortex: HTM in Clojure -
>> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/nupic-community/clortex
>> >>>>>>>>>> Co-creator @OccupyStartups Time-Bombed Open License
>> >>>>>>>>>> http://occupystartups.me
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Author, Real Machine Intelligence with Clortex and NuPIC
>> >>>>>>>>>> Read for free or buy the book at
>> >>>>>>>>>> https://leanpub.com/realsmartmachines
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> e:[email protected] t:+353 83 4214179
>> >>>>>>>>>> Join the quest for Machine Intelligence at http://numenta.org
>> >>>>>>>>>> Formerly of Adnet [email protected] http://www.adnet.ie
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Felix Andrews / 安福立
>> >>>>>> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Felix Andrews / 安福立
>> >>>>> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Felix Andrews / 安福立
>> >>>>> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Felix Andrews / 安福立
>> >>>> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Felix Andrews / 安福立
>> >> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/
>> >
>> >
>>
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>
>
> --
> Regards
> Chandan Maruthi
>

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