There will be whiteboards.... :)
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Matt Taylor
OS Community Flag-Bearer
Numenta


On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Richard Crowder <[email protected]> wrote:
> Agree. The recent informal meetup was great. And looking likely to be a
> format used more. As well as more specific meets, such as the NuPIC
> Development Progress Reviews and Office Hours.
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Felix Andrews <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> No I was just talking about the idea of a special forum session, to beat
>> out some precise computational experiments from the theory. But I now think
>> we shouldn't do that. Just leave it ad-hoc.
>>
>> It's often the incidental conversations that are most valuable, so I was
>> suggesting we don't fill up all the time with formal talks. I realise this
>> leaves out remote people but there it is. Maybe we could hire some
>> telepresence robots.
>>
>>
>> On 28 October 2015 at 20:20, Richard Crowder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I gained the impression that it was split into two schedules for the
>>> community side. Having longer presentations with questions and answers after
>>> or throughout. Then shorter time-limited 'lightning' talks with time limited
>>> Q&A after (potentially before the longer talks). To help presenters enter
>>> videos and schedule a time for them to attend and answer questions, time
>>> zone differences etc.
>>> I'm guessing your not referring to the lightning talk side with your
>>> second thought?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Felix Andrews <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On second thought, I don't think we need a scheduled, structured
>>>> session. It would be better to have ad-hoc discussions. Just don't fill up
>>>> all the time with talks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, 28 October 2015, Felix Andrews <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27 October 2015 at 12:31, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I nominate David Ray to moderate. (If he wants to, of course).
>>>>>>
>>>>> Seconded!
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas on how to structure this kind of session? I'm sure there will
>>>>> be plenty of ideas raised by Sergey, Fergal and others. It might be 
>>>>> obvious
>>>>> what to focus on. Or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find that putting ideas into code exposes a lot of unspecified
>>>>> details, which may be very important in their effects. So personally I 
>>>>> would
>>>>> like us to propose some concrete mechanisms, avoiding hand waving as much 
>>>>> as
>>>>> possible (sure, we need hand waving sometimes). It would be good to get
>>>>> those people with more neuroscience knowledge involved at that detailed
>>>>> level, I think.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Felix Andrews <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sergey, I would love to hear that talk. Distilled neuroscience is
>>>>>> gold.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps, along with Fergal's talk, it could lead into a
>>>>>> forum/discussion on potential computational experiments inspired by
>>>>>> neuroscience? An explicit bridge-building exercise between theory and
>>>>>> practice. We would need a skilled moderator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27 October 2015 at 07:43, Marcus Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1, I'd be interested in your talk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:40 PM Sergey Alexashenko
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey David,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry, I must have not been clear. I do not intend to present
>>>>>>>> theories from neuroscience, just evidence. For example, we now know 
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> inhibitory neurons can block off information input to an excitatory 
>>>>>>>> neuron's
>>>>>>>> cell body from one specific dendrite. That seems like it could be 
>>>>>>>> important,
>>>>>>>> but HTM has no way to account for that. There are a few other similar
>>>>>>>> mechanics.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Obviously, I have theories about these behaviors (and so do other
>>>>>>>> people), but I do not want to present them for similar reasons to 
>>>>>>>> those in
>>>>>>>> your email.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What are your thoughts on that approach?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sergey
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:18 PM, David Ray
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sergey,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you put it in context - show how the contrary opinions actually
>>>>>>>>> demonstrate computational viability - and not just someone's 
>>>>>>>>> opinions? Show
>>>>>>>>> how the challenging theories have a computational model which 
>>>>>>>>> illustrates a
>>>>>>>>> more efficient likelihood of prediction accuracy? Because If all the
>>>>>>>>> challenging theories do is propose a theory, then how is it a 
>>>>>>>>> contribution
>>>>>>>>> considering HTM theory yields actual results.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So personally I'm not interested unless the theory can demonstrate
>>>>>>>>> an increase in cognitive resolution.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But that's just me...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Sergey Alexashenko
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you think there would be any interest in a short talk on some
>>>>>>>>> neuroscience challenges to HTM theory? I am specifically thinking 
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> dendritic computation, role of inhibitory neurons and non-Hebbian
>>>>>>>>> plasticity. I know this sounds dense, but I am reasonably sure I can 
>>>>>>>>> make it
>>>>>>>>> sound accessible to people who have only On Intelligence and the 
>>>>>>>>> white paper
>>>>>>>>> as their background.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sergey
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2015 3:22 PM, "Fergal Byrne"
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, either Matt will get a recording, or the speaker will, or
>>>>>>>>>> someone will come and use their own camera/mike. Or best, all of 
>>>>>>>>>> these.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Marcus Lewis <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Will these talks be recorded? I vote for "yes".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Matthew Taylor
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Fergal,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please edit this wiki document:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/numenta/nupic/wiki/HTM-Challenge-Community-Meetup-Planning
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Taylor
>>>>>>>>>>>> OS Community Flag-Bearer
>>>>>>>>>>>> Numenta
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Fergal Byrne
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks Matt for organising the Hangout this morning/afternoon.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > The Community Meetup on Friday, November 13th [1] is hosted by
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Numenta but
>>>>>>>>>>>> > is our day. Please have your say in designing and shaping how
>>>>>>>>>>>> > the day works.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > The current proposal is a mixture of longish talks (40-50mins
>>>>>>>>>>>> > plus Q&A) and
>>>>>>>>>>>> > lightning talks (5-15mins plus Q&A).
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > We have so far pencilled in two long-form talks:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 1. Donna Dubinsky (Numenta co-founder and CEO) on the
>>>>>>>>>>>> > "Business of HTM"
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 2. Me on "Symphony from Synapses: Neocortex as a Universal
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Dynamical Systems Modeller"
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > We have from 3pm until 9ish, so there's plenty of room for
>>>>>>>>>>>> > talks of both
>>>>>>>>>>>> > types. I'd personally enjoy a good mixture of a few more
>>>>>>>>>>>> > long-form and a
>>>>>>>>>>>> > good number of swift talks.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Matt is going to set up a Wiki page for this (he'll post a
>>>>>>>>>>>> > link here), so
>>>>>>>>>>>> > please jump in with your talk proposals - specify approx
>>>>>>>>>>>> > length of the talk
>>>>>>>>>>>> > so we can figure out how to schedule them.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > For those who cannot attend in person, we'll hopefully
>>>>>>>>>>>> > organise a
>>>>>>>>>>>> > webcast/hangout way to deliver your contribution.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > This is all subject to objections/amendments from you guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>> > nothing is set
>>>>>>>>>>>> > in stone.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Fergal Byrne
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > [1] http://www.meetup.com/numenta/events/224711563/
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Fergal Byrne, Brenter IT @fergbyrne
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://inbits.com - Better Living through Thoughtful
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Technology
>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://ie.linkedin.com/in/fergbyrne/ -
>>>>>>>>>>>> > https://github.com/fergalbyrne
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Founder of Clortex: HTM in Clojure -
>>>>>>>>>>>> > https://github.com/nupic-community/clortex
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Co-creator @OccupyStartups Time-Bombed Open License
>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://occupystartups.me
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Author, Real Machine Intelligence with Clortex and NuPIC
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Read for free or buy the book at
>>>>>>>>>>>> > https://leanpub.com/realsmartmachines
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > e:[email protected] t:+353 83 4214179
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Join the quest for Machine Intelligence at http://numenta.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Formerly of Adnet [email protected] http://www.adnet.ie
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fergal Byrne, Brenter IT @fergbyrne
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://inbits.com - Better Living through Thoughtful Technology
>>>>>>>>>> http://ie.linkedin.com/in/fergbyrne/ -
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/fergalbyrne
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Founder of Clortex: HTM in Clojure -
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/nupic-community/clortex
>>>>>>>>>> Co-creator @OccupyStartups Time-Bombed Open License
>>>>>>>>>> http://occupystartups.me
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Author, Real Machine Intelligence with Clortex and NuPIC
>>>>>>>>>> Read for free or buy the book at
>>>>>>>>>> https://leanpub.com/realsmartmachines
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> e:[email protected] t:+353 83 4214179
>>>>>>>>>> Join the quest for Machine Intelligence at http://numenta.org
>>>>>>>>>> Formerly of Adnet [email protected] http://www.adnet.ie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Felix Andrews / 安福立
>>>>>> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Felix Andrews / 安福立
>>>>> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Felix Andrews / 安福立
>>>>> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Felix Andrews / 安福立
>>>> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Felix Andrews / 安福立
>> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/
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