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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAPIERALA, MARIA H [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 1:49 PM
> To: Thomas Narten; John E Drake
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-
> problem-statement-02.txt
> 
> One ("organizational") comment is that since L3VPN is not only an RFC
> but it has been widely deployed for 14 years, it should precede the
> others mentioned in the proposed text.

JD:  Totally irrelevant

> It seems to be mentioned as an
> "afterthought"..

JD:  No.  The section starts by describing issues with VLANs.  E-VPN is then 
described as it does not have these issues.  L3VPN is then introduced in the 
context of VM mobility
  
> The L3VPN description itself is not precise and not sufficient

JD:  This is a helpful comment

> (and needs to include a reference to draft-marques-end-system).

JD: Why, other than you like the draft?

> 
> Maria
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> > Of Thomas Narten
> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:57 PM
> > To: John E Drake
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-
> > problem-statement-02.txt
> >
> > WG:
> >
> > To circle back to this thread:
> >
> > John E Drake <[email protected]> writes:
> >
> > > I would be happy to help.  As the text of the two paragraphs has
> > > been in flux, would you please send me what you consider to be the
> > > latest text?
> >
> > John did provide text, and it is in
> > draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-03.txt, which was posted
> > last week. It says:
> >
> >    For IP/MPLS networks, Ethernet Virtual Private Network (E-VPN)
> >    [I-D.ietf-l2vpn-evpn] provides an emulated Ethernet service in
> which
> >    each tenant has its own Ethernet network over a common IP or MPLS
> >    infrastructure and a BGP/MPLS control plane is used to distribute
> > the
> >    tenant MAC addresses and the MPLS labels that identify the tenants
> >    and tenant MAC addresses.  Within the BGP/MPLS control plane a
> > thirty
> >    two bit Ethernet Tag is used to identify the broadcast domains
> >    (VLANs) associated with a given L2 VLAN service instance and these
> >    Ethernet tags are mapped to VLAN IDs understood by the tenant at
> the
> >    service edges.  This means that the limit of 4096 VLANs is
> > associated
> >    with an individual tenant service edge, enabling a much higher
> level
> >    of scalability.  Interconnectivity between tenants is also allowed
> > in
> >    a controlled fashion.
> >
> >    IP/MPLS networks also provide an IP VPN service (L3 VPN) [RFC4364]
> > in
> >    which each tenant has its own IP network over a common IP or MPLS
> >    infrastructure and a BGP/MPLS control plane is used to distribute
> > the
> >    tenant IP routes and the MPLS labels that identify the tenants and
> >    tenant IP routes.  As with E-VPNs, interconnectivity between
> tenants
> >    is also allowed in a controlled fashion.
> >
> >    VM Mobility [I-D.raggarwa-data-center-mobility] introduces the
> >    concept of a combined L2/L3 VPN service in order to support the
> >    mobility of individual Virtual Machines (VMs) between Data Centers
> >    connected over a common IP or MPLS infrastructure.
> >
> >    There are a number of VPN approaches that provide some if not all
> of
> >    the desired semantics of virtual networks.  A gap analysis will be
> >    needed to assess how well existing approaches satisfy the
> >    requirements.
> >
> > Does that text work for folk?
> >
> > Thomas
> >
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