Then the question is why we need to describe E-VPN in the problem draft? E-VPN 
is still in developing stage and operator yet deploy it. Why we describe it as 
a "traditional" solution?

Lucy

-----Original Message-----
From: John E Drake [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 6:31 PM
To: Lucy yong
Cc: Thomas Narten; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in 
draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-02.txt

Also MAC address mobility and constant convergence time after failure 
regardless of the number advertised routes.

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On Jul 27, 2012, at 4:50 PM, "Lucy yong" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Tom,
> 
> It is not clear what Ethernet service that E-VPN emulates for.
> MEF has E-Line, E-LAN, E-Tree, and E-access service. IETF has VPLS. IMHO 
> E-VPN does not emulate any of them. It emulates a bridging device connecting 
> to multiple sites and being configured with multiple VLANs that may have 
> different topologies among the sites. E-VPN is very like L3VPN [RFC4364] but 
> implemented in L2. Another outstanding feature E-VPN providing is 
> multi-homing with active-active mode. None of existing Ethernet Services 
> support that. Thus, E-VPN does not emulate existing Ethernet service. It 
> seems that SP will offer a new service by using E-VPN.
> 
> Thanks,
> Lucy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Thomas Narten
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 2:57 PM
> To: John E Drake
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in 
> draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-02.txt
> 
> WG:
> 
> To circle back to this thread:
> 
> John E Drake <[email protected]> writes:
> 
>> I would be happy to help.  As the text of the two paragraphs has
>> been in flux, would you please send me what you consider to be the
>> latest text?
> 
> John did provide text, and it is in
> draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-03.txt, which was posted
> last week. It says:
> 
>   For IP/MPLS networks, Ethernet Virtual Private Network (E-VPN)
>   [I-D.ietf-l2vpn-evpn] provides an emulated Ethernet service in which
>   each tenant has its own Ethernet network over a common IP or MPLS
>   infrastructure and a BGP/MPLS control plane is used to distribute the
>   tenant MAC addresses and the MPLS labels that identify the tenants
>   and tenant MAC addresses.  Within the BGP/MPLS control plane a thirty
>   two bit Ethernet Tag is used to identify the broadcast domains
>   (VLANs) associated with a given L2 VLAN service instance and these
>   Ethernet tags are mapped to VLAN IDs understood by the tenant at the
>   service edges.  This means that the limit of 4096 VLANs is associated
>   with an individual tenant service edge, enabling a much higher level
>   of scalability.  Interconnectivity between tenants is also allowed in
>   a controlled fashion.
> 
>   IP/MPLS networks also provide an IP VPN service (L3 VPN) [RFC4364] in
>   which each tenant has its own IP network over a common IP or MPLS
>   infrastructure and a BGP/MPLS control plane is used to distribute the
>   tenant IP routes and the MPLS labels that identify the tenants and
>   tenant IP routes.  As with E-VPNs, interconnectivity between tenants
>   is also allowed in a controlled fashion.
> 
>   VM Mobility [I-D.raggarwa-data-center-mobility] introduces the
>   concept of a combined L2/L3 VPN service in order to support the
>   mobility of individual Virtual Machines (VMs) between Data Centers
>   connected over a common IP or MPLS infrastructure.
> 
>   There are a number of VPN approaches that provide some if not all of
>   the desired semantics of virtual networks.  A gap analysis will be
>   needed to assess how well existing approaches satisfy the
>   requirements.
> 
> Does that text work for folk?
> 
> Thomas
> 
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