Would like to hear service provider opinion but would expect end-client IP to 
be able to "show up" on any NVE, as is the case for server IPs. This can be due 
to any topology change or load rebalancing.

The "address mobility" characteristic of NVO3 should apply here as well and 
without breaking connections.

There shouldn't be a material difference is supporting address mobility for 
both server-function to server-function and client to server-function.
 

               Client Traffic  Client Traffic
                              /     \/     /
                            /    /     \ /
                        NVE        NVE
                          |-VM       |-VM
                          |-VM      |-VM
--szb

On Oct 3, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Black, David <[email protected]> wrote:

>> I would suggest that "Address mobility scheme" might be a better
>> title. VM migration is one instance of when we need address mobility,
>> but we'll need this in with container migration or when we just want
>> to move an virtual address between servers.
> 
> I agree, and I think Larry pointed this out earlier.
> 
>> Also, w.r.t. VM or
>> container migration, addresses are not the only networking state we
>> need to consider, we need consider how to move connection state (e.g.
>> open TCP connections bond to the address being moved)-- this seems to
>> be out of scope for this draft.
> 
> OTOH, I would caution about getting too involved in this as both ends
> of the spectrum of connection state preservation are reasonable and used
> in practice:
> 
> - VM live migration preserves TCP connections and the like.
> - IP address takeover on hardware failure doesn't preserve
>    anything whose state was solely on the hardware that's now a
>    smoking pile of parts.
> 
> Thanks,
> --David
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tom Herbert [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 9:04 PM
>> To: Linda Dunbar
>> Cc: [email protected]; Larry Kreeger (kreeger); Black, David
>> Subject: Re: [nvo3] FW: New Version Notification for draft-merged-nvo3-vm-
>> mobility-scheme-00.txt
>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Linda Dunbar <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> As NVO3 new charter encourage solutions proposals, we added more
>> comprehensive solutions for the issues described in the draft-ietf-nvo3-vm-
>> mobility-issues. We now call it "draft-merged-nvo3-vm-mobility-scheme-00"
>> I would suggest that "Address mobility scheme" might be a better
>> title. VM migration is one instance of when we need address mobility,
>> but we'll need this in with container migration or when we just want
>> to move an virtual address between servers. Also, w.r.t. VM or
>> container migration, addresses are not the only networking state we
>> need to consider, we need consider how to move connection state (e.g.
>> open TCP connections bond to the address being moved)-- this seems to
>> be out of scope for this draft.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>>> Comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Linda
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 12:18 PM
>>> To: Rahul Aggarwal; Wim Henderickx; Ravi Shekhar; Luyuan Fang; Linda Dunbar;
>> Rahul Aggarwal; Luyuan Fang; Wim Henderickx; Ravi Shekhar; Yakov Rekhter;
>> Yakov Rekhter; Linda Dunbar; Ali Sajassi; Ali Sajassi
>>> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-merged-nvo3-vm-mobility-scheme-
>> 00.txt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A new version of I-D, draft-merged-nvo3-vm-mobility-scheme-00.txt
>>> has been successfully submitted by Linda Dunbar and posted to the IETF
>> repository.
>>> 
>>> Name:           draft-merged-nvo3-vm-mobility-scheme
>>> Revision:       00
>>> Title:          NVO3 VM Mobility Scheme
>>> Document date:  2014-10-03
>>> Group:          Individual Submission
>>> Pages:          24
>>> URL:            http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-merged-nvo3-vm-
>> mobility-scheme-00.txt
>>> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-merged-nvo3-vm-
>> mobility-scheme/
>>> Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-merged-nvo3-vm-mobility-
>> scheme-00
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Abstract:
>>>   This document describes the schemes to overcome the network-related
>>>   issues to achieve seamless Virtual Machine mobility in the data
>>>   center and between data centers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>> 
>>> The IETF Secretariat
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