Hi Greg,

NVO3 Requirements draft has always been on Informational (not Standard track) 
since its ‘-00’ version. So I do not think there is any problem if it describes 
the status quo.

Best regards,
Hao

From: nvo3 [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg Mirsky
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 11:07 PM
To: Deepak Kumar (dekumar)
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nvo3] Mail regarding draft-ashwood-nvo3-oam-requirements

Hi Deepak,
I think that if a document merely describes the status quo then it should not 
be on Standard track but Informational, Experimental or BCP.

Regards,
Greg

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Deepak Kumar (dekumar) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Greg,

Nvo3 Requirement(s) should be updated to the way OAM is deployed by Operators.
Operators are deploying OAM in conjunction with Controller with l2/l3 vtep 
split between multiple switches and also combined.
As Requirement will drive the solution and standard to be usable operator 
deployment is important.

Thanks,
Deepak

From: Greg Mirsky <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 2:11 PM
To: dekumar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>,
 "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [nvo3] Mail regarding draft-ashwood-nvo3-oam-requirements

Hi Deepak, et. al,
I think that if we agree that particular OAM mechanism is needed to monitor, 
report defect or troubleshoot failure, then even it may be used in one of many 
deployment scenarios such requirement is a MUST for NVO3 OAM but is MAY for 
particular OAM tool set. In other words, to support particular deployment 
scenario NVO3 OAM protocol MUST exist as either extension of existing OAM or 
new mechanism/protocol. Whether it is included, used is decision outside of the 
scope of the requirements document.

Regards,
Greg

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Deepak Kumar (dekumar) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,

I have few minor comments on the draft.

NVO3 Reference model should be updated to show operator deployment(s) where L2 
and L3 NVE are distributed across nodes and so to verify tenant end system to 
tenant end system path require de-encap and re-encap of traffic in middle nve 
if l3 routing is required.

In Reference Diagram we should also highlight L3 Network can be of multiple 
types and in case of ip, it can be ip unumbered which makes traceroute not even 
identifying ingress interface as all interfaces share the same ip.

Another Area requirement clarification should be done is that NVE if they are 
deployed with Distributed Anycast Gateway and EVPN, Tenant End system 
traceroute doesn’t provide any relevant information and this problem also need 
to be solved.

Path MTU is also very important requirement and we should also address it as 
part of OAM requirement also.

Again these requirement(s) should be May as they are not applicable for all 
scenarios.

Thanks,
Deepak

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