while this topic isn't quite cut-and-dry 'theft', it still seems like a case of 'unathorized access' to resources. If not explicitly, then at least implied unless otherwise stated. Should these AP owners be punished for adopting a new technology? This debate is bound to be a hot one, but I find it more of an ethical issue than a legal one. Is it ethical to access a resource or service someone else has purchased without their consent? I think the answer is: no. -----Original Message----- From: Gabriel Mino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 19:23:10 To:"'Kevin M. Agard'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [nycwireless] Goal Accomplished
There is absolutely no difference here. You are simply trying to rationalize theft. >>>>>> as are you ignorance? Is that really your argument?>>>>> no, my argument is that one of the BIGGEST problems with our society as a whole is the lack of accountability and you my friend seem to support the idea that those that operate wi-fi networks play NO role and are NOT responsible in anyway? I suppose after a child starves to death, the parents ought not be responsible either. I mean, after all, the child COULD have found something to eat right!?!?! Pathetic -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin M. Agard Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Goal Accomplished Gabriel Mino wrote: > > THEFT!!!....HAHAHAHAAHAAAA > > RTFM. All maintainers of any access point/802.11 network have the PERSONAL > responsibility to read the manual that came with their product and take the > necessary steps to secure it. Ignorance is not an excuse. And if one chooses > to access the web via an open/shared point, they ARE NOT a thief!!!! Yes, they are. If I forget and leave my keys hanging in the ignition of my car and you take the car without my permission, the fact that I left the keys DOES NOT give permission for you to take it. If you do, you are still a thief. There is absolutely no difference here. You are simply trying to rationalize theft. > stealing bandwidth, which is exactly what we are talking about here >>>>> > one cannot steal what is GIVEN away for free. The owners are responsible for > their own networks. Now that everybody's a "wiz" with their PC equipment, > it's time they take responsibility for it too. > > Theft huh?....hey Kevo, ever wonder where some of those nice tasty M$ apps > you love so much were derived? Ask some of the folks in the open-source > community about theft. Oh, I see. Microsoft did it so that make everything all right. Is that really your argument? KMA -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ --------- Christian Grewell -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
