I think the original analogy was about you painting your car yellow,
sticking a medalion on, putting a taxi sign on the roof and then
complaining about theft of door hinge use when I jump in the backseat
and ask for Broadway and 42th street.

Now you may not have known that yellow cars with taxi signs and $100,000
medalions are usually available for rent, but your great ignorance does
not balance favorably against my small ignorance of your foolishness as the
guy who drives around the taxi that doesn't accept rides.

There are legislators considering explicitly protection for anyone
accessing a non-WEPed access point. To continue the analogy they ask
that for protection from door hinge users you put on the "Off Duty"
sign when driving your taxi around the city not picking up passengers.

Of course, this analogy is a bit flawed in that using your door hinge
could actually cause you harm, while the bandwidth used by the e-mail
check does nothing to shorten the life of your router or your DSL line,
and you never noticed or you would have at least turned on WEP.

I don't personally use non-advertised free nodes for reasons I've gone
into in the past. I also don't want to support the freeloaders who are
using our public airwaves for WiFi while not giving anything back to
the public like free open access points. If I were writing the law you
would have to provide at least minimal free public access when using a
commons like the WiFi frequencies, anything else is rationalized
theft!!!

;)

-- Daniel
  << When truth is outlawed; only outlaws will tell the truth. >> - RLiegh

On Tue, 27 May 2003, Kevin M. Agard wrote:

]
]
]Gabriel Mino wrote:
]>
]> THEFT!!!....HAHAHAHAAHAAAA
]>
]> RTFM. All maintainers of any access point/802.11 network have the PERSONAL
]> responsibility to read the manual that came with their product and take the
]> necessary steps to secure it. Ignorance is not an excuse. And if one chooses
]> to access the web via an open/shared point, they ARE NOT a thief!!!!
]
]Yes, they are. If I forget and leave my keys hanging in the ignition of my
]car and you take the car without my permission, the fact that I left the
]keys DOES NOT give permission for you to take it. If you do, you are still a
]thief.  There is absolutely no difference here. You are simply trying to
]rationalize theft.
]
]
]> stealing bandwidth, which is exactly what we are talking about here >>>>>
]> one cannot steal what is GIVEN away for free. The owners are responsible for
]> their own networks. Now that everybody's a "wiz" with their PC equipment,
]> it's time they take responsibility for it too.
]>
]> Theft huh?....hey Kevo, ever wonder where some of those nice tasty M$ apps
]> you love so much were derived? Ask some of the folks in the open-source
]> community about theft.
]
]Oh, I see. Microsoft did it so that make everything all right. Is that
]really your argument?
]
]
]KMA
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