We should be clear about this.

What Mr. Witacre is intending is not just to charge you and me (which he already does), but to charge each and every single company that provides us a web page.

Frankly, I think he's smoking something. In addition to being impossible to manage such a scheme from a contract and payment point of view, the only way to maintain it is to collude with the other backbone providers.

This is not to say he won't try, nor that we aren't moving dangerously close to monopoly power with broadband--both cable/dsl and backbone (we have been racing towards this for some time now).

What Dustin is suggesting is to head this off at the pass. Instead of just ignoring this lunatic (Mr. Witacre), we should use this as a rallying cry to ensure that the foundations of the Internet--and this _is_ about SBC trying to change the fundamental operations of the Internet--remain uncorrupted by corporate greed and monopolistic practices.

Dana Spiegel
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On Oct 31, 2005, at 8:02 PM, Jim Henry wrote:

Well, me too, but I'm willing to pay for something better than AOL.

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Just go ahead and turn the Internet off if you can only connect me to
the AOLized version of it.

- Dustin -

Jim Henry wrote:

You can't argue with that. They invest hundreds of millions
of dollars
in transport and need to get their ROI.



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from the SBC chief


Please never tell me again there is no need for an
alternative to the
Cable/Bell broadband duopoloy. /

"If there were any delusions that Ma Bell Wasn't Back
<http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/27/1635247&tid=
215>, SBC
CEO Edward Witacre has cleared that up in an interview
<http://www.businessweek.com/@@n34h*IUQu7KtOwgA/magazine/conte
nt/05_45/b3958092.htm>
with Business Week Online. When asked about Google, Vonage
and other
Internet Upstarts he responded in typical Ma Bell Style:
'How do you
think they're going to get to customers? Through a broadband
pipe. Cable
companies have them. We have them. Now what they would like
to do is use
my pipes free, but I ain't going to let them do that
because we have
spent this capital and we have to have a return on it. So
there's going
to have to be some mechanism for these people who use these
pipes to pay
for the portion they're using. Why should they be allowed to use my
pipes?'."

- Dustin -

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