I’ve been holding off because I haven’t seen any geeses!!!!  Ditto the King 
Eider - I did report yesterday - hunters were in the area.  The King left the 
sandbar when a small boat approached.
Eileen

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> On Jan 14, 2022, at 9:06 AM, Gerald Smith <gosh...@gisco.net> wrote:
> 
> My question is are any of these species legal to take in NY?  I suspect the 
> geese may not be while the ducks probably are. I applaud keeping information 
> out of e-bird but also letting environmental conservation officers know that 
> some bad apples may be skirting the rules. While one wishes to avoid all out 
> war a few skirmishes might be in order. Interesting problem you have down 
> there as I suspect most of the northern NY sportsperson community would be 
> oblivious of e bird Good Luck 
> 
> Birds rise above it all
> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2022, at 8:12 AM, Patricia Lindsay <gelocheli...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> With the hunting season now upon us, and the Waterfowl Count starting on 
>> Saturday, we would like to make a serious plea that birders and 
>> photographers not post reports of rare geese from Riverhead and the East End 
>> of Long Island on eBird, Facebook, this listserv, or any other social media 
>> platform until the end of the season.
>> 
>> It has become very clear here on LI that hunters have caught on to eBird, 
>> the listservs, and social media, and are targeting the rare geese (and ducks 
>> also) using information obtained from birders. One of the only Pink-footed 
>> Geese in the Riverhead area last winter was shot this way, and we personally 
>> know of other cases involving Ross's and Barnacle Geese (and King Eiders, 
>> etc.). A Greylag Goose, very likely of wild origins and if so, extremely 
>> rare, was also shot in this area a few years ago. 
>> 
>> The problem is most acute in the Riverhead area and on the South Fork, from 
>> November to the end of hunting season (9 Feb for Canada Goose, 6 Mar for 
>> Snow Goose). We understand that the birding community does not want war with 
>> the hunters, but the situation here is very sensitive--everybody knows the 
>> very limited number of specific fields used by the geese, and it seems a 
>> shame that the rarer species are being exposed to this level of danger. 
>> 
>> We would suggest Cackling, Ross's, Barnacle, Pink-footed, and Greater 
>> White-fronted Geese, and of course any mega rare species, seen in these 
>> areas not be reported until hunting season ends or at least until the geese 
>> seem to have moved on. 
>> 
>> Cackling and Greater White-fronted Goose may be taken legally as part of the 
>> Canada Goose bag limits. Snow and Ross's Geese may be taken as part of the 
>> Snow Goose bag limits. The others are not listed as game species on the DEC 
>> website so apparently were taken illegally. 
>> 
>> By making this one small sacrifice, we might just be able to save a few 
>> birds and get to enjoy them longer.
>> 
>> Thanks for your consideration.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Shai Mitra and Pat Lindsay
>> Bay Shore
>> 
>> 
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