Nice try.

If you want to comment. Comment on these:

> I was embarrassed having recommended VF to our overseas guests to buy
> a VF prepay card when the survey form didn't work and we're told to
> pay $1 to get an explanation.
>
[comment non specific to VF removed]
>
> Surely VF can waive $1 to someone who just purchased their prepay card
> for $35????
>
> It is not that impressive.


On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Brislen, Paul, VF-NZ
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What makes you say we have expensive lobile charging? We're in the top half 
> of the OECD in terms of value. I can provide the link tomorrow if that will 
> help.
>
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> This message was sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld from Vodafone
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue Oct 21 17:48:04 2008
> Subject: [phpug] Re: Vodafone and their new invoicing policy
>
>
> I was embarrassed having recommended VF to our overseas guests to buy
> a VF prepay card when the survey form didn't work and we're told to
> pay $1 to get an explanation.
>
> As if I wasn't already embarrassed by the high mobile charge in NZ!
>
> Surely VF can waive $1 to someone who just purchased their prepay card
> for $35????
>
> It is not that impressive.
>
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Brislen, Paul, VF-NZ
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> We don't make money off the dollar a call project but we save money and our 
>> customers, the ones that actually DO need to talk to an operator, can get 
>> through instead of sitting on hold for 40 minutes or more.
>>
>> That's a win in my book.
>>
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>> This message was sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld from Vodafone
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tue Oct 21 17:17:44 2008
>> Subject: [phpug] Re: Vodafone and their new invoicing policy
>>
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> Fine excuses but $1 is a winner because it is easy way out and adds
>> profit. As if the profit isn't high enough in NZ.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Brislen, Paul, VF-NZ
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Sid,
>>>
>>> Prepay customers who want to speak to an operator pay $1/call. I'll
>>> happily argue the case for this because the simple matter is that we've
>>> reduced calls to the call centre by more than 60%. That means that when
>>> you call and you do have to speak to an operator, you can in a timely
>>> fashion. We were having people ring up to ask how to turn up the volume
>>> on their phone, how to change their ring tones, how to charge up their
>>> phone and just for a chat because they were lonely. Most of the services
>>> they were calling about could be solved using self service (either
>>> online or using the touch tone process on the phone). That all added up
>>> to horrendous waiting times for callers who did need a customer rep's
>>> help. The $1/call is a winner.
>>>
>>> We do have an 0800 number - 0800 021 021 - but if you're calling from
>>> your mobile you're better off ringing 777 because the system recognises
>>> you and it speeds things up.
>>>
>>> Again, I'll add you to the list of those that would prefer to receive a
>>> PDF in an email form.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Paul Brislen
>>> External Communications Manager
>>> Vodafone New Zealand
>>> 021 721 337
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>> Behalf Of Sid Bachtiar
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 4:49 p.m.
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [phpug] Re: Vodafone and their new invoicing policy
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> Let me put it simply.
>>>
>>> It is not nice to require your customer to login to get their invoice.
>>> It is more acceptable to send them email with PDF attachment. It might
>>> be legal, but your customers will hate you for it.
>>>
>>> Just like requiring customers to pay to call help desk to ask why the
>>> hell is the online survey for redeeming the $10 bucks not working? Oh,
>>> no 0800 number either?
>>>
>>> Sid
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Brislen, Paul, VF-NZ
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Sid, not sure I understand where you pay us for the TXT. If we send
>>>> you a TXT you don't pay for it... The TXT will include your due
>>>> amount/date.
>>>>
>>>> Or have I misunderstood your point?
>>>>
>>>> I'll take your suggestion as another +1 for the emailing of PDFs.
>>>>
>>>> And if you want a longer/even more off the PHP topic discussion on
>>>> Vodafone, feel free to email me directly or post something on the
>>> forum
>>>> (http://forum.vodafone.co.nz) where such things are more on topic. I'm
>>>> happy to answer questions here, though, so long as nobody minds.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> Paul Brislen
>>>> External Communications Manager
>>>> Vodafone New Zealand
>>>> 021 721 337
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>> Behalf Of Sid Bachtiar
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 4:28 p.m.
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: [phpug] Re: Vodafone and their new invoicing policy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>
>>>> I guess there are few/many issues around VF customer service in the
>>>> last few while. But I'm not going to go with my own rant. I've been a
>>>> loyal VF customer since 10 years ago, but I'm getting disappointed
>>>> with the current trend. Anyway ...
>>>>
>>>> Back to the off topic, if we pay you by sending you a SMS that says
>>>> you have to login to a website and click and stuffs for every invoice,
>>>> you wouldn't like that would you?
>>>>
>>>> It's about courtesy to people you have the privilege of doing business
>>>> with.
>>>>
>>>> I think sending an email invoice with PDF is acceptable these days
>>>> because you don't have to do extra work. It is really like sending
>>>> invoice by post without the paper. But sending SMS and requiring
>>>> people to do extra work to pay their bill IS NOT acceptable.
>>>>
>>>> Is it too difficult for VF to develop an invoicing system that sends
>>>> email with PDF attached?
>>>>
>>>> Just my 2c
>>>>
>>>> Sid
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Brislen, Paul, VF-NZ
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> Does 'provide' equal 'post' or 'send'?
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul Brislen
>>>>> External Communications Manager
>>>>> Vodafone New Zealand
>>>>> 021 721 337
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 4:09 p.m.
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: [phpug] Re: Vodafone and their new invoicing policy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fair Trading Act
>>>>>
>>>>> "If you supply goods and services to another registered person, you
>>>> must
>>>>> provide a tax invoice within 28 days of the purchaser asking for one.
>>>> Not
>>>>> to supply one after such a request is an offence and you may be
>>>> charged
>>>>> penalties."
>>>>>
>>>>> =K=
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:02:46 +1300, "Brislen, Paul, VF-NZ"
>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apologies for top posting... if I could make Outlook work the way I
>>>> want
>>>>>> (or just make it go away) I'd be a happy man.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Feedback to me (email is good or start a thread on the Vodafone
>>>> forum:
>>>>>> http://forum.vodafone.co.nz) and I'll put it in the strongest terms
>>>> when
>>>>>> we review how it's all going.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for finding the thread - one of You pointed it out to me. I like
>>>> to
>>>>>> get involved in as many discussions on Vodafone as I can find
>>>> (Twitter,
>>>>>> Geekzone, GPForums, PressF1, NZNOG) but I've sorely neglected my
>>>> groups
>>>>>> so I do apologise. Feel free to fire any/all Vodafone related
>>>> comments
>>>>>> to me... it keeps me employed and I can avoid writing press
>>> releases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul Brislen
>>>>>> External Communications Manager
>>>>>> Vodafone New Zealand
>>>>>> 021 721 337
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Gold
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 3:58 p.m.
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: [phpug] Re: Vodafone and their new invoicing policy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Brislen, Paul, VF-NZ
>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll find a link or similar and post it here re: legality of
>>>>>> sending/not
>>>>>>> sending an invoice. As I understand it there is no requirement to
>>>>>>> physically move an invoice from one place to another in the legal
>>>>>>> requirements and putting it online is acceptable but I'll find you
>>> a
>>>>>>> reference for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Much appreciated Paul.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for sending an email containing the PDF, the short answer is no
>>>>>> we're
>>>>>>> not doing that but we are considering it. I for one would strongly
>>>>>>> recommend we do offer that service but as the service hasn't even
>>>>>>> launched yet the team are waiting to see what the response is like
>>>>>>> before making any changes. I can understand that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Put me down as a +1 for electronic delivery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have contact details for "the team" to send feedback?  Or
>>>>>> should that be on the letter explaining the new system? (I'm working
>>>>>> from home today and the letter is at the office.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just out of interest, how did you stumble across this thread?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>> Have you seen our website?.... http://www.vodafone.co.nz
>>>>>
>>>>> Manage Your Account, check your Vodafone Mail and send web2TXT
>>> online:
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
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>>> http://www.vodafone.co.nz/myvodafone
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>>
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>> Have you seen our website?.... http://www.vodafone.co.nz
>>
>> Manage Your Account, check your Vodafone Mail and send web2TXT online: 
>> http://www.vodafone.co.nz/myvodafone
>>
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>> the author and do
>> not represent those of Vodafone New Zealand Limited.
>>
>> Vodafone New Zealand Limited
>> 20 Viaduct Harbour Avenue, Private Bag 92161, Auckland 1030
>> Telephone + 64 9 355 2000
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>>
>> >
>>
>
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> Have you seen our website?.... http://www.vodafone.co.nz
>
> Manage Your Account, check your Vodafone Mail and send web2TXT online: 
> http://www.vodafone.co.nz/myvodafone
>
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>
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