I've often thought about the same thing. Largely because it's relatively
painless to move most websites as far as DNS goes, but email is a pain and
variable. Google Apps is obvously on the list of solutions.
I have one new client who has moved host twice in 4 years - email included,
and looking again now. It would be a whole lot easier if email were
centralised and decoupled from website (not tied to a particular host or
developer).
The only thing to remember is if you are on a system like cPanel, which
includes email by default, you need to change the MX on the website host so
that internally generated email (contact forms) go to the right place. They
will otherwise default to the same account the site runs on, and fall into a
catchall, or just bounce.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "lenz" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [phpug] Re: Migrating a Domain Name
re email ... google apps is pretty cheep and most of the time good
enough for what customers need ... just an idea without wanting to
start flamewars here :-)
cheers
lenz
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:09 AM, lenz <[email protected]> wrote:
i used to do everything on my own, now i have companies i rely on and
have fallback companies i can migrate to if things go wrong. makes me
a way happier man and dramatically reduces my growth of grey hair.
if they want only one guy to talk to, fine, that is you, where you
manage the stuff is not important to them, so just use some service
that works for you.
we work on a customer account that enables the owner of a domain to
grant management rights to a web designer/developer for management
exactly for the problem you describe :-)
cheers
lenz
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Super Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
The client is keen to just have one port of call if things go wrong,
hence their desire for us to handle hosting the site and also their
email. Plus it's always seemed much neater to me to have as much as
possible under one roof rather than split things off. But your
suggestion would get around my problem so I'll investigate further.
On Mar 25, 10:47 am, lenz <[email protected]> wrote:
just a short question ... why do you want the nameservers at all? all
you need is a couple a-records that point to your host (for the domain
itself, forwww.domain, maybe blog or so) the rest can happily stay
with who ever looks after the domain. don't know freeparking too well
but i am sure they have some sort of DNS editor where you can simply
add records as needed. that way email remains how it is set up and all
are happy (hopefully)
cheers
lenz
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Jochen Daum <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hi,
> On 25 March 2010 10:30, Super Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
>> This is a little bit off topic for this group but I thought there's
>> plenty of experience here so I might get some good answers.
>> I've got a new client that has asked me to build a new site for them
>> (they previously had an old site built by someone that has now
>> vanished overseas). The site is nearly ready and I have to put some
>> thought into the best way to migrate their hosting from the old
>> company over to me.
>> At the moment their domain name, hosting and email is all with
>> Freeparking.co.nz but I will be taking over the hosting. I'm quite
>> happy for the domain name to stay with Freeparking, and I know it's
>> just a matter of logging into their Freeparking account and changing
>> the name servers to point to me.
>> The thing I'm worried about is their email. I can set up mailboxes
>> for them on my service but I believe as soon as I change the name
>> servers Freeparking will drop their mailboxes.
> I won't research if this is true, I just take that a given for now.
>>This could cause a
>> problem because there may be a day or more where email will still be
>> sent to Freeparking due to the delay in other systems updating their
>> copies of the zone record.
> You need to find a email provider that can host your email without
> having to have the DNS for it. All of them do it, you just can't use
> Freeparking as they have the DNS currently.
> Move DNS to somewhere without email, but keep MX records in place, so
> they point to Freeparking. I'm pretty sure they won't drop the email
> boxes, because DNS is somewhere else, only Xtra does that (better
> check though)
> Then set up new email and point MX to the new server. Wait 24 h.
> Then move DNS to final place.
> BTW, we just discovered this problem as well with Webdrive, so will
> likely move DNS somewhere completely else in any case, currently
> probably nettica.com
> HTH, Jochen
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