+1 for off list.
On 23/04/2013 9:25 a.m., David wrote:
To all the php people streaming into this post:
I apologise to anyone who took offense in the first initial post about
listing just the requirements. I just wanted to be concise and my
enthusiasm quickly typed and loaded up the post. Never had I
envisioned the range of responses afterwards.
As I’ve been told, a lot of developers took offense in the first post
and have been having a go at me. I am new to this type of community,
and I have received some kind emails to me saying that they never
imagined they would try to rip me apart like this, and whoever
introduced me to this group should have warned me, and it was good to
fend off some of these malicious attacks. I’ve also been told that
from past experiences that these developers had were that they didn’t
get paid or got scammed. I’m not here to do that kind of stuff. We all
graduated from various universities or training facilities and had
life experiences to decipher and decide if the startup is worth while
or not. No one is perfect when it comes to business, and even the
bigshot CEOs of fortune 500 companies had their fair share of the
learning curve.
The responses range from hate, support, mentorship, keen to join
venture, etc.
Our readers have been in the dark about what my startup actually is,
and I would have imagine in the description of the 100m+ profiles
would have raise some kind of curiosity and disbelief.
When some people started chanting money, money, money, I pray that, it
isn’t the only motivational factor. Otherwise, your $50k-$90k should
at least the pay the bills, keep you fed, and housed, and get you
laid. I guess you can call it a job interview to see what kind of
responses you would get and who not to work with. I guess you can
call it a psychological evaluation of prospective team
members/co-founders.
I saw a lot of the pain factors eg. Small businesses going under after
1 year and according to statistics NZ that % is around 90%. Also,
small businesses do not have the war chest of big companies in their
marketing and advertising budget. Also, there are a lot of websites
that give absolutely no value but r____ people’s info and habits.
There are more in the list, and it can go on and on.
There is one in this group that I threw some questions at him to think
about in regards to my startup venture, and I think he was intrigued
as to where I was coming from and where I was going with my concept.
We’ve had about a 4 hour conversation, so I’m assuming that it had
some kind of merit. He was kind enough to point me to some direction
of where I can obtain some kind of resource, and I thank him for that.
In regards to trolls spewing hate, may I remind them that this is a
public forum, and that perhaps they had some employers in mind that
they wanted to work for in the future. Delete does not mean delete.
That should be basic 101 since the inception of Google etc. Now they
saw their personalities and probably will remember not to work with
them should they apply. Yes, I know it is a 2 way street and a double
edge sword by responding back to them, but forgive me, I had a Steve
Jobs moment like in the infamous late night sparring with a small time
reporter.
Mr Ivan Kurnosov (senior developer @ Wialus & someone who lacks social
skills and etiquette that the only interaction he gets is being a
troll on Saturday night as Charlie Sheen would put it) & Danny boy
Weeks @dwat.co.nz. Don’t you know that I and others can Google your info?
Re: Nigerian scammer, if I was one Ivan, you’d already be naked in a
compromised position, with your shame recorded on my laptop and with
your finances drained from your bank account into mine and still your
shame uploaded on the media outlets. Talk about Saturday night fun.
Yeah, we’d make a great team you and I and scam people, the spammer &
scammer from Russia and the Nigerian scammer. Just for the record in
any country and in any race, you’ve got your good and bad people with
a spectrum of personalities.
The Social Network Movie: Please see it if you want to be entertained
and learn about startups in a digestible intro. Mark, Dustin, Andrew,
Chris, & Eduardo started thefacebook without getting paid initially,
and the only money available, the $20k from their CFO, Eduardo, went
towards the bare essentials eg. Hardware, etc. You try to go to VC
firms and other areas and demand at an earlier stage to provide
funding to pay the team, and they won’t give you the money. They want
to see a lean mean startup to see if you can you be a good steward
with someone else’s investment money etc. Also to mitigate risk, you
can have a 9 to 5 job and view this startup venture as a side
project. If it works, great! If it doesn’t, you can say I still got
my day job to keep me paid and laid.
I didn’t know what I wanted to do in life until the last 5 years. I
like solving puzzles and using my skills to help others. I believe by
establishing this startup, this is one way I can help contribute to
society and the paint the world the only way I know how.
I challenge everyone, with the knowledge and skills you possess, how
would you colour the world in your lifetime?
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