Hi,

I think that you need the NodeCountEditor active (see
https://github.com/apache/jackrabbit-oak/tree/trunk/oak-core/src/main/java/org/apache/jackrabbit/oak/plugins/index/counter
).

I see a "counter" index referenced, and indeed I have such an index in my
AEM, with these 2 relevant properties:

type=counter
async=async

(
https://jackrabbit.apache.org/oak/docs/query/indexing.html#index-definitions;
it mentions that such an "counter" index should come ootb, but you might
want to check your setup.)


Jörg

Am Do., 4. Sept. 2025 um 13:17 Uhr schrieb Raffaele Gambelli
<raffaele.gambe...@cegeka.com.invalid>:

> Thanks Jorg,
>
> I took a look at that code and I debugged it in my simple local
> application, I think the issue in my scenario is caused by this method
>
> /**
>      * Get the count estimation.
>      *
>      * @param node the node
>      * @return the estimation (-1 if no estimation is available)
>      */
>     public static long getCountSync(NodeState node) {
>         boolean hasCountProperty = false;
>         long added = 0;
>         long removed = 0;
>         for (PropertyState p : node.getProperties()) {
>             if (!p.getName().startsWith(COUNT_PROPERTY_PREFIX)) {
>                 continue;
>             }
>             hasCountProperty = true;
>             long x = p.getValue(Type.LONG);
>             if (x > 0) {
>                 added += x;
>             } else {
>                 removed -= x;
>             }
>         }
>         if (!hasCountProperty) {
>             return -1;
>         }
>         return Math.max(added / 2, added - removed);
>     }
>
> where I understand that without a property starting with
> COUNT_PROPERTY_PREFIX that estimation will not ever work, so the new
> question is what kind of property is it and if an automatic way exists to
> set it in my nodes.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Cordiali saluti / Best regards,
>
> Raffaele Gambelli
> Application Architect
> ________________________________
> From: Jörg Hoh <jhoh...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
> Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2025 10:56 AM
> To: oak-dev@jackrabbit.apache.org <oak-dev@jackrabbit.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Unable to get values from mbean "nodeCounter"
>
> Hi,
>
> it works for me, but I am using AEM ... I am not an expert in this area,
> but looking at the code[1] it seems that it only reads existing data from
> the repository. But if you use the existing Oak class, you should have that
> editor already in place so that this data exists...
>
> Maybe Thomas Mueller can help here?
>
>
> [1]
>
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>
>
> Am Mi., 3. Sept. 2025 um 16:00 Uhr schrieb Raffaele Gambelli
> <raffaele.gambe...@cegeka.com.invalid>:
>
> > Hi  Jörg,
> >
> > I'm using latest 1.84.0 and I do nothing special, I start my application
> > where I configured Oak repository with mbean:
> >
> > MBeanServer mbs = ManagementFactory.getPlatformMBeanServer();
> > Oak oak = new Oak(ns).with(mbs);
> > ...
> >
> > then open visualvm or jconsole, attach to local jvm, see all available
> > mbean and then try to run the operations showed in mbean, now I was
> > interested in experimenting with nodeCounter which has two operations:
> > getEstimatedNodeCount retunring long and getEstimatedChildNodeCounts
> which
> > returns a String.
> >
> > I know that from visualvm or jconsole, mbean returning "complex" string,
> > sometimes are not properly shown but I see a blank string, and the other
> > operation which returns a long? It is very strange.
> >
> > As parameters I set the root node, so "/" and thats'all.
> >
> > Does it work for you?
> >
> >
> > Cordiali saluti / Best regards,
> >
> > Raffaele Gambelli
> > Application Architect
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Jörg Hoh <jhoh...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2025 2:50 PM
> > To: oak-dev@jackrabbit.apache.org <oak-dev@jackrabbit.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Unable to get values from mbean "nodeCounter"
> >
> > Hi Raffaele,
> >
> > what Oak version are you using? And when you connect via jconsole to that
> > JVM, does it return a proper value?
> >
> > Jörg
> >
> > Am Mi., 3. Sept. 2025 um 09:19 Uhr schrieb Raffaele Gambelli
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> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > as described here
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