On Mar 2, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Manger, James H wrote:

> I would be incredibly happy if OAuth talked about Applications,  
> instead of Consumers (a term many have found strange).

The problem is that the term 'consumer' is quite accurate and  
descriptive when you imagine that a software application, in the role  
of a consumer, is consuming the output of the "service provider". An  
'application' is certainly an OAuth system entity, but the application  
might play multiple roles, one of which is as a consumer.

- johnk

> Given that oauth_consumer_key is baked into the protocol, this might  
> be a lost cause.
>
> Perhaps improving the nomenclature is more important.
> The spec could add a note that for historical reasons the label  
> "oauth_consumer_key" is used. Or change the label in a new version  
> with a note to also accept the old label when backward compatibility  
> is required.
>
>
> James Manger
> [email protected]
> Identity and security team — Chief Technology Office — Telstra
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On  
> Behalf Of Brian Eaton
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2009 12:38 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [oauth] Re: OAuth FAIL
>
>
> Ah, I totally forgot about the whole "consumer key" nomenclature.
>
> It would make me incredibly happy if OAuth talked about "consumer
> name" and "consumer secret", because crypto geeks and others tend to
> think that "keys" are secrets.  The OAuth consumer key is not secret,
> thus leading to confusion.
>
> Given that oauth_consumer_key is baked into the protocol, this might
> be a lost cause.
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Manger, James H
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> OAuth’s use of “Consumer Developer” versus “Consumer” can be  
>> confusing.
>>
>>
>>
>> It can sound like the OAuth spec is trying to distinguish: the  
>> software
>> developer who wrote a web app; from a web site where the web app is
>> deployed. A software developer can write lots of web apps. A web  
>> app can be
>> installed on lots of independent web sites. I don’t think this is the
>> intention. The desired difference is between a human (“Application  
>> Owner”)
>> who can complete a registration process, and a computer program
>> (“Application”) that is configured with keys and secrets.
>>
>>
>>
>> It might be clearer to avoid the “Consumer Developer” term –  
>> perhaps saying
>> that a Key and Secret must be obtained for a Consumer from the  
>> Service
>> Provider.
>
>
> >


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