I don't think application is a good term for the "role" but it certainly should 
be used in the explanation.

EHL

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Manger, James H
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 6:32 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [oauth] Re: OAuth FAIL
> 
> I would be incredibly happy if OAuth talked about Applications, instead
> of Consumers (a term many have found strange). Given that
> oauth_consumer_key is baked into the protocol, this might be a lost
> cause.
> 
> Perhaps improving the nomenclature is more important.
> The spec could add a note that for historical reasons the label
> "oauth_consumer_key" is used. Or change the label in a new version with
> a note to also accept the old label when backward compatibility is
> required.
> 
> 
> James Manger
> [email protected]
> Identity and security team — Chief Technology Office — Telstra
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Brian Eaton
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2009 12:38 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [oauth] Re: OAuth FAIL
> 
> 
> Ah, I totally forgot about the whole "consumer key" nomenclature.
> 
> It would make me incredibly happy if OAuth talked about "consumer
> name" and "consumer secret", because crypto geeks and others tend to
> think that "keys" are secrets.  The OAuth consumer key is not secret,
> thus leading to confusion.
> 
> Given that oauth_consumer_key is baked into the protocol, this might
> be a lost cause.
> 
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Manger, James H
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > OAuth’s use of “Consumer Developer” versus “Consumer” can be
> confusing.
> >
> >
> >
> > It can sound like the OAuth spec is trying to distinguish: the
> software
> > developer who wrote a web app; from a web site where the web app is
> > deployed. A software developer can write lots of web apps. A web app
> can be
> > installed on lots of independent web sites. I don’t think this is the
> > intention. The desired difference is between a human (“Application
> Owner”)
> > who can complete a registration process, and a computer program
> > (“Application”) that is configured with keys and secrets.
> >
> >
> >
> > It might be clearer to avoid the “Consumer Developer” term – perhaps
> saying
> > that a Key and Secret must be obtained for a Consumer from the
> Service
> > Provider.
> 
> 
> 

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