Speaking just to the UMA side of things...

....it's possible in UMA 2 for the client to request additional scopes when interacting with the token endpoint specifically to address cases where the client knows it's going to make the following requests and wants to obtain a token with sufficient privilege for those requests. This requires a fair amount of knowledge by the client of the ecosystem but that is sometimes the case and hence this capability exists :)

On 4/22/19 1:18 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote:
The problem from my perspective (and my understanding of UMA) is the RS does 
not have any information about the context of the request. For example, the 
client might be calling a certain resource (list of accounts) and immediately 
afterwards wants to obtain the balances and initiate a payment. I think the UMA 
case the RS either predicts this based on policy or past behaviour of the 
client OR the client will need to issue several token requests. That might not 
be a problem in 1st party scenarios but it is in 3rd party scenarios if the AS 
gathers consent.

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