My understanding of the conversation on the call was that the WG does agree
there is a problem, but the draft presented did not articulate the problem
well enough. The wording of the poll did not capture the conversation very
well.


On Mon, Sep 28, 2026 at 8:59 AM Dick Hardt <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'll repeat, the poll was ""Do people agree there is a problem to be
> solved"
>
> and the votes were a majority *no*.
>
> None of these agreements came out of the WG call:
>
> Members of the WG agree there is a problem/smoking gun
>> Members of the WG disagree on the breaking change introduce as the
>> unitarily option to solve it
>> Members of the WG agree to more deeply formalize the problem so that
>> additional options to work on could be formalized post adoption
>
>
> And I'm unclear what "the breaking change" is referring to.
>
> The proposed solution (which was not voted on) does not break anything
> existing. It allows incremental deployment.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2026 at 3:10 PM Aaron Parecki <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I will add my American 2 cents to Jeff's summary.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2026 at 7:03 AM Lombardo, Jeff <jeffsec=
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Are you, Emelia and Dick [and all who voted], saying the same thing?
>>>
>>> "Do people agree there is a problem to be solved" is not a the same of
>>> "Do people agree there is a problem to be solved *like that*" as Emelia
>>> pointed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My 2 Canadian cents (roughly 0.1 US cent those days) is that:
>>>
>>>    - Members of the WG agree there is a problem/smoking gun
>>>    - Members of the WG disagree on the breaking change introduce as the
>>>    unitarily option to solve it
>>>    - Members of the WG agree to more deeply formalize the problem so
>>>    that additional options to work on could be formalized post adoption
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Jean-François “Jeff” Lombardo* | Amazon Web Services
>>>
>>>
>>> Principal Standards Specialist, Identity Services
>>> Montréal, Canada
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Dick Hardt <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* September 28, 2026 8:48 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Cc:* Sam Goto <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* [EXT] [OAUTH-WG] Re: Is authorization code exfiltration a
>>> problem the WG wants to solve?
>>>
>>>
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>>> Checking in to see if this problem is something the WG wants to work on.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 5:19 PM Dick Hardt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Emilia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The poll text was "Do people agree there is a problem to be solved"
>>>
>>>
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/polls-interim-2026-oauth-05-202609211300/
>>>
>>> Slide 4 of the presentation was presented during the poll.
>>>
>>>
>>> The poll was not adoption of the draft by the WG.
>>>
>>> /Dick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 5:02 PM Emelia S. <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dick,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My interpretation from yesterday was that we were asked "Do we want to
>>> adopt this specific solution" and the answer was "no, because it's unclear
>>> if this actually solves the problem or not based on reading the draft text
>>> alone"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There's no clear definition of the problem, therefore there can't be a
>>> solution, yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> — Emelia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 Sep 2026, at 17:05, Dick Hardt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At the September 21 interim [1], the chairs asked if there authorization
>>> code exfiltration is a problem to be solved. 3 said yes, 5 said no.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The authorization code is a credential that we deliver in the redirect
>>> URL. From there it can be exfiltrated through history, logs, Referer, page
>>> JavaScript and extensions. Based on the Browser-Swapping thread [2] and the
>>> support for Redirect Headers in December [3], I had thought there was
>>> consensus that this is a problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you think exfiltration of the authorization code is a problem this WG
>>> should solve?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> /Dick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2026-oauth-05/session/oauth
>>>
>>> [2]
>>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/oauth/K8Wnw08GzPstyAQAh0JmSB47pOQ/
>>>
>>> [3]
>>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/oauth/FFkUlOiz7I4K03pqjMfIFkxAwA8/
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